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Old 26th March 2009, 12:46 AM   #101
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My best option would be the Panasonic caps and bypass them with small black gate caps and also some bleeding resistors.

If you want the best : black gate, mundorf
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Old 26th March 2009, 01:39 AM   #102
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My best option would be the Panasonic caps and bypass them with small black gate caps and also some bleeding resistors.

If you want the best : black gate, mundorf

But aren't the Mundorf electrolytics just rebadged capacitors made by Fischer and Tauscher (except more expensive)?
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Old 26th March 2009, 04:03 AM   #103
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Where did you get that information???

If it is made by the same company it is sure a more expensive and better cap. You can say the same for BG and many other things. What is the point, you think a company would just print munrdof on ordinary caps just to make more money ? Give me a break...

Those are the M-lytic, not very expensive if you consider the quality... Just personal opinion, I don't have any mundorf caps, just that all people who use them say they are best out there.

http://www.hificollective.co.uk/comp...mlytic_hc.html

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http://www.mundorf.com/english/Capac...lifier_eng.pdf
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BG are maybe little better.

To learn a bit, can anyone have any idea of the possible advantages/inconvenient in performance of a huge 2x 22f over multiple 3f caps???

Is it particularly suited for tube amplifiers?
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Old 26th March 2009, 04:13 AM   #104
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What about THELs "Krummer" caps
But seems like they have stopped supply of the big one that looked much like M-Lytic, but just the same as too expencive

btw, I have once built amps with HUGE 220.000uf, and it wasnt too good really and sounded slow, and I expected the opposite...I wont use very big supply caps again, never
And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either
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Old 26th March 2009, 09:51 AM   #105
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Where did you get that information???

If it is made by the same company it is sure a more expensive and better cap. You can say the same for BG and many other things. What is the point, you think a company would just print munrdof on ordinary caps just to make more money ? Give me a break...

Those are the M-lytic, not very expensive if you consider the quality... Just personal opinion, I don't have any mundorf caps, just that all people who use them say they are best out there.

http://www.hificollective.co.uk/comp...mlytic_hc.html

[URL]
http://www.mundorf.com/english/Capac...lifier_eng.pdf
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BG are maybe little better.

To learn a bit, can anyone have any idea of the possible advantages/inconvenient in performance of a huge 2x 22f over multiple 3f caps???

Is it particularly suited for tube amplifiers?

I got the information that Fischer and Tausche manufacture Mundorf electrolytics from visiting F&T's factory and talking to their engineers. As I have also posted elsewhere, F&T also manufacture Jensen's four-pole electrolytics.

However, I did not intend any criticism of these capacitors, they are very high quality. But I do wonder if the price of having Mundorf printed on them tends to raise the price significantly.
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Old 26th March 2009, 02:20 PM   #106
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Hi MCampbell,

I guess it is the company specifications and marketing that makes the price.

When you have the tools you can build anything from crap to best of the world.

'And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either' lol ? what are you going to use then ? A dedicated regulated MOSFET power supply ? Still needs a capacitor bank hehe
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Old 26th March 2009, 03:01 PM   #107
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Hi MCampbell,

I guess it is the company specifications and marketing that makes the price.

When you have the tools you can build anything from crap to best of the world.

'And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either' lol ? what are you going to use then ? A dedicated regulated MOSFET power supply ? Still needs a capacitor bank hehe

I do believe you're right!!

I take it the 2nd part wasn't for me (but just for the record, I think paralleled caps are brilliant, although a parallel-series capacitor-bank is even more fun!)
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Old 26th March 2009, 04:16 PM   #108
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Why do you think they are any better than the quality they do fore very demanding situations
Think of windmills, trains, aircrafts, military etc
Besides, why do you believe that Mundorf is more clever than a big and experienced company
Do you think that Mundorf can learn them anything
I bet they are no more than a relabeled product
They are made fore high currents, as are many other high quality industrial caps
Whether they are good fore audio is a different matter, and something of which they know nothing about, and couldnt care less about
Thats our craziness

Whether a cap sounds good or not is probably more accidental
Some people are very skilled in finding this lucky one
And present them as a superiour audio cap
The origin of such a cap might come as a very big surprice

Resistors is in the same ballgame
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Whether a cap sounds good or not is probably more accidental

My opinion as well. It applies equally to wire, resistors and almost everything else. Luckily for Mundorf F&T already had the gold paint
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My opinion as well. It applies equally to wire, resistors and almost everything else. Luckily for Mundorf F&T already had the gold paint
...not to mention the "Made in Germany" typesetting!!!
(Although if you look at the ZN tin-foil caps "Made in Germany" is strangely missing - could that be because the ZN's are, in fact, manufactured in Switzerland....?)
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