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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Budapest, Hungary
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I would like to share my experiences with the new Z-foil Vishay Audio Resistors (VAR):
http://www.vishay.com/product?docid=63140&query=VAR I built in six resistors at the most critical location in my home-made tube preamplifier. The circuit where I tested the VARs is a two-stage passive RIAA equalizing circuit with three SRPP tube stages. The equalizer between the first and second stage realizes the bass boost: 95.4k series between the stages, 10.6k + 30nF shunt to GND. The equalizer between the second and third stage is for treble cut: 75k series between the stages, 1nF shunt to GND. I used Russian vacuum-sealed 0.5% silver-mica SGM-3 capacitors in the equalizer (in combination with the VAR resistors). I got the exact corner frequencies with the resistors as below: Output impedance of each tube stage = 1.2k (1.2k + 94.2k + 10.6k) x (4 x 7500pF) = 3180us 10.6k x (4 x 7500pF) = 318us (1.2k + 73.8k) x 1000pF = 75us I used Yageo 2W metal-film resistors at these positions before and at all other positions. The system: turntable Thorens TD160 Super, arm Mayware Formula 4, pickup Denon DL103, MC-pre: Dynavector PE-2, preamplifier: home-made SRPP stages with E88CC as above, power amp: home-made push-pull with Russian G-807s without negative feedback, loadspeakers: Quad ESL (aka ESL-57). The coupling capacitors in the preamplifier are Russian K40-U9 1uF/400V PIO types, and Russian FT-3 teflon types in the power amplifier. All the other resistors are 2W Yageo (RSF2WS) and the volume pot is a plain Piher (shame, I know...). I listened to these randomly selected LPs: Pal Esterhazy: Harmonia Caelestis (Hungaroton, http://www.hungaroton.hu/hu/node/2314) Sara Marie Anderson: Bergen Havn (Opus 3, http://www.rauna.com/slides/covers/18.gif) Dire Straits: Communiqué (Vertigo) Miles Davies: Sketches of Spain (Columbia) and some more. My impressions after the first listening: - The dynamics of the music increased. There is more "air". Before I observed that the fortissimos are a bit annoying, one want to turn down the volume. Now I can listen to high volume without feeling it "too loud". - The bass notes can be separately heard (especially at contrabass, bass guitar), they are not melting together like they did before. - The female voice is very clean, transparent, nature-like. I can feel her presence in the room. - It is possible to chat while load rock music is played. I did not believe that so big improvement can be caused by just replacing a few resistors, before I actually heard it. Now I have no rest until I throw out the remaining metal-oxide resistors... |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Finally I replaced all 1k5 resistors in the SRPP cathodes to Vishay Audio Resistors. I expected a great improvement, and there is a big difference indeed. My initial impressions are quite mixed. The sound became a bit harsh (or was it too smeared before?). On the other hand I can hear much more low level details that were before masked by the high level signal. The preamplifier has run ony for a few hours now, and the sound is getting more and more smooth, the harshness is going away gradually. I expect it will be smooth and detailed at the end. I am "rediscovering" my LP and CD collection, as it used to happen...
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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glad to read about improvements
![]() where you purchased these resistors ?
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Sofia
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You may find much less improvement with the remaining resistors. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Milwaukee,Wisconsin-USA
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Hi ZenMod,
This is the company for the resistors. They will sell just one! http://www.texascomponents.com/ BC
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: USA
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Note that these "VAR" resistors are just "naked" versions of the standard packaged Vishay resistors. I find it hard to believe that the naked version has any audible advantage over the standard version, but whatever...
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This is very interesting. So, just the input resistors can make such change? Wow.
oshifis - Quote:
I just did not understand. As soon as the signal reach the capacitor... I think this is completely unnecessary blurring of the sound, as capacitor in general act to prevent voltage changes, so it has to "blur" a little the amplitude to prevent fast and rapid changes of it. Don't I get it right?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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Quote:
phono section
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Pardon me, but what section of forum do you mean?
I think tha this is about Electronics and Parts, it is well suitable there... nope? I just have no idea what you mean. Regardless it looks like no-one want even touch my complex questions there: Genius SW-5.1 HT mod - are my ideas good? So looks like I need to chop them down to more managable parts...
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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I wrote that original poster use them in phono section of preamp ........ so - that's why caps are shunted to gnd - passive RIAA EQ
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