Go Back   Home > Forums > Design & Build > Parts
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Parts Where to get, and how to make the best bits. PCB's, caps, transformers, etc.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 4th July 2007, 02:34 PM   #11
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally posted by Cal Weldon
I like to use wire wound resistors, air core inductors and poly caps for the series connections and sand resistors, iron core and elec's for the by-pass.

Not sure if there's any sense in that though.
yes the crossover contains air core inductors. two of them. One small coil on a on a nice clear plastic round reel. The other is on a long square reel. The red sure is pretty.

The crossover also has two lamps on the bottom of it. I assume those were ment to protect the tweeter from overloading.

It also has a yellow thing on the bottom with a wire coming out both ends. it is labled F 4.0J MT 100V. One of the lamps is connected to this yellow thing. they are both connected in series.

anyway a couple more questions. Is there any way to test the transducers to find out what their specs are so they may be used in the future? Also what does the J stand for on the resistor? 5W 6Ohm J.

here is a dumb arze question for ya all. do you have to build a crossover for a specific voltage or wattage? meaning will a simple crossover work for 1000 watts as well as 10 watts? or does everything have to be scaled accordingly?
__________________
"Sleep... those little slices of death. How I loath them." - Poe
  Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2007, 02:34 PM   #12
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Quote:
Originally posted by anatech
Hi Cal,
"Sand cast", or "bathtub" resistors as they were known as, are in fact wire wound.

Whether the parts are in series, or in "bypass" makes no difference. They are all in the signal path.

Hi tinitus,

The value means nothing. What is important is that they are in an AC circuit and therefore must be non-polarized types.

-Chris
tow of the 5w 6OhmJ bathtub (i like that.) sand cast resisters are in series connected to the two lamps. So it looks like this:

lamp > resister > resister > lamp > yellow thing F4.0 J MT 100V > resister bathtub sand cast 5W 3R3OhmJ > + side of tweeter. Its also picking up the small coil at the 3Ohm resister along with the cap.
__________________
"Sleep... those little slices of death. How I loath them." - Poe
  Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2007, 03:07 PM   #13
djQUAN is offline djQUAN  Philippines
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: manila
Send a message via MSN to djQUAN Send a message via Yahoo to djQUAN
the yellow thing is a film cap. not sure what type though. the markings say it's 4uF 100V

the lamps are indeed used for protecting the tweeter from overloading.


do you have pics?
  Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2007, 03:13 PM   #14
tinitus is offline tinitus  Europe
diyAudio Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
My point about the "small" value was, or should have been, that it dont cost much to change to something better
  Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2007, 03:46 PM   #15
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia
Quote:
Originally posted by cadbury8


Also what does the J stand for on the resistor? 5W 6Ohm J.

here is a dumb arze question for ya all. do you have to build a crossover for a specific voltage or wattage? meaning will a simple crossover work for 1000 watts as well as 10 watts? or does everything have to be scaled accordingly?
The J on both the cap and resistor most likely means 5% tolerance. In standard practice F = 1% J =5% k = 10%.

A crossover designed to handle 1000 watts can be used for 10 watts but not the other way around. The voltage and power ratings need to reflect the signal they are processing.

One side note from experience; you might not want to use a higher voltage rated cap (than necessary) in a lower signal voltage applications.

In order for a cap to handle higher voltages, the dielectric must be made thicker. Because an electric field on one plate causes a current to flow in the other plate of the cap, the plate distance as well as the dielectric material (the normal focus with capacitors) can have an audible effect on the low level signal - because the field strength drops off rapidly with distance.

In speaker applications this causes a softening of the sound at lower levels and there appears to be a volume threshold where things sort of clear up.


Regards, Mike.
__________________
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question which divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct. " Niels Bohr
  Reply With Quote
Old 4th July 2007, 04:44 PM   #16
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
No, i dont have pics. sorry. I know it would make things easier as my explanations are kind of lacking. Two minutes with pics and you guys could draw a scematic of the thing and tell me what it is doing exactly. lol.

thanks to you all for the information.

Why would anyone use a multi-tap transformer with a switch to change between wattage in a crossover? 3.75w 7.5w 15w 30w all at 8ohms.

next question completely off topic is this:
has anyone ever soldered a new cap onto a motherboard of a computer? i had one blow on my motherboard. The side of it is brown and the top looks like the top of an expanded ballon. hehehe. It probably isnt possible.
__________________
"Sleep... those little slices of death. How I loath them." - Poe
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Keeping the workspace neat jackinnj Equipment & Tools 34 22nd March 2010 02:31 PM
Keeping cost down? Zap Tubes / Valves 7 14th July 2008 03:56 AM
Any parts worth keeping from PC monitor? UncleJessie Parts 24 16th May 2003 12:18 PM
Keeping components close? Christian Solid State 3 10th October 2002 05:02 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:51 PM.

Page generated in 0.10058 seconds (78.51% PHP - 21.49% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio