hello guys,
k6 (2 RU) weighs around 20kgs, the k10 (3 RU) and the h3000 weighs around
30kgs i think, really heavy. they all utilized a torroidal transformer, and wimpy filter caps, a total 10,000uF per rail/channel (there are 8x10,000 uF/100V or 80V caps on the power supply board they connect them in a series to accomodate the supply voltage and they dont have any DC rail fuses! only the torroids primary are fused!), common problem, busted ouput tranies. M-Audio MA/CA series (not to be confused with the 'REAL' M-Audio that manufactures studio electronics) MusicFocus, Kesler. they all have the same amp modules as the Konzerts. I dont know about these other brands from china BTS, Lexus, Labon etc. if they also use the same amp modules. These amps has a built in limiters that sounds nasty, they were also 'mindless' , they deliver brute power without any control, unlike the Crown's with the IOC,ODEP ckt., Crest Audio (IGM, POWERLOCK ckt.), QSC (output averaging ckt) Peavey (DDT ckt) to control the power output of the amp. At these power levels (1KW and up) You have to be very carefull when you use them especially on live sound (gigs), ever seen a JBL 2226 driver in flames? well i did!
A simple beep!,zonk!pot! spike!, noissseeee! due to bad interconnectors, line transients, or as simple as dropping of a microphone on stage could blow several drivers at an instant and you will get a nasty electrical shock if you accidentally touch the output terminals of these amps while they are cranking.
good day friends
k6 (2 RU) weighs around 20kgs, the k10 (3 RU) and the h3000 weighs around
30kgs i think, really heavy. they all utilized a torroidal transformer, and wimpy filter caps, a total 10,000uF per rail/channel (there are 8x10,000 uF/100V or 80V caps on the power supply board they connect them in a series to accomodate the supply voltage and they dont have any DC rail fuses! only the torroids primary are fused!), common problem, busted ouput tranies. M-Audio MA/CA series (not to be confused with the 'REAL' M-Audio that manufactures studio electronics) MusicFocus, Kesler. they all have the same amp modules as the Konzerts. I dont know about these other brands from china BTS, Lexus, Labon etc. if they also use the same amp modules. These amps has a built in limiters that sounds nasty, they were also 'mindless' , they deliver brute power without any control, unlike the Crown's with the IOC,ODEP ckt., Crest Audio (IGM, POWERLOCK ckt.), QSC (output averaging ckt) Peavey (DDT ckt) to control the power output of the amp. At these power levels (1KW and up) You have to be very carefull when you use them especially on live sound (gigs), ever seen a JBL 2226 driver in flames? well i did!
A simple beep!,zonk!pot! spike!, noissseeee! due to bad interconnectors, line transients, or as simple as dropping of a microphone on stage could blow several drivers at an instant and you will get a nasty electrical shock if you accidentally touch the output terminals of these amps while they are cranking. good day friends
you can go to Spin Electronics in mandaluyong city, "crossing" along edsa. they have huge heatsinks you can use.
you may also want to get in touch with julian wales, conrad engineering, www.conradheatsinks.com
you may also want to get in touch with julian wales, conrad engineering, www.conradheatsinks.com
thanks sir tony,
found the spin's website www.spinelectronics.com. they also provided there the shop location map. I'll also visit the place one time for my parts needs.
-joeyg
found the spin's website www.spinelectronics.com. they also provided there the shop location map. I'll also visit the place one time for my parts needs.
-joeyg
Hi audio machine,
im jay-r from cagayan de oro city.
need some help of your knowledge...
ive seen the K2 and H3000 from one of your post. do you own those konzert amplifiers? what class of amplifiers are kozert? class H?
i have one unit K10, used to drive the my four pieces 18 inch T&T subwoofers, double magnet and double spider.
have you heard those T&T drivers?
is the H3000 still available?
thank you for the help
im jay-r from cagayan de oro city.
need some help of your knowledge...
ive seen the K2 and H3000 from one of your post. do you own those konzert amplifiers? what class of amplifiers are kozert? class H?
i have one unit K10, used to drive the my four pieces 18 inch T&T subwoofers, double magnet and double spider.
have you heard those T&T drivers?
is the H3000 still available?
thank you for the help
hello jay-r,
I guess your into pro-audio biz too huh , Yes I own those amplifiers.
Konzert K10 is a low bias class B amplifier while the H3000 is a class H type. The H3000 is not available in the market anymore they are replace with the new Konzert V12 I think it is a repackage H3000 amp modules. Same ckt, new amp chassis. Yes I know those T&T speakers. they are distributed by SPL Trading in Binondo Manila. I think they are much better than the Crown 1860. Yesterday I busted eight 1860's on a Subzero Wbin with the H3000, they are really powerful amplifiers. I prefer using the H3000 on the bass bins and the K10 on the mids. Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Audiomachines
I guess your into pro-audio biz too huh
, Yes I own those amplifiers.Konzert K10 is a low bias class B amplifier while the H3000 is a class H type. The H3000 is not available in the market anymore they are replace with the new Konzert V12 I think it is a repackage H3000 amp modules. Same ckt, new amp chassis. Yes I know those T&T speakers. they are distributed by SPL Trading in Binondo Manila. I think they are much better than the Crown 1860. Yesterday I busted eight 1860's on a Subzero Wbin with the H3000, they are really powerful amplifiers. I prefer using the H3000 on the bass bins and the K10 on the mids. Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Audiomachines
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hi fellow pinoys,
Also have a pair of konzert 12" ~300W in the garage bought some time ago for dipole subs but now junked.
As hands-on to prof.Leach book Introduction to Electroacoustic, i'd like to construct my first diy vented bass reflex.
Problem is how to obtain TS parameters for these drivers.
I've read from Rod Elliot's ESP site about obtaining these.
I know its easy but I was just wondering if anyone knows where to find these TS parameters maybe a website or have done these before.
thanks
Also have a pair of konzert 12" ~300W in the garage bought some time ago for dipole subs but now junked.
As hands-on to prof.Leach book Introduction to Electroacoustic, i'd like to construct my first diy vented bass reflex.
Problem is how to obtain TS parameters for these drivers.
I've read from Rod Elliot's ESP site about obtaining these.
I know its easy but I was just wondering if anyone knows where to find these TS parameters maybe a website or have done these before.
thanks
wow thanks for your help audio machines, now i know the reason why my K10 limits easily, i mean clipping lights at 2 speaker per channel but still im not satisfied with the output power.
im planning to purchase an amplifier use to drive those T&T subs,
my first choice is the CA20 amplifier from sounstandard. do you have experienced with that amplifiers? or how about the I12
( Iseries) 1500 rms watts at 8 ohms, from TASSO. are they really Class H amps?
or maybe if you will recommend, i ll go for the V12 from konzert. what is its power rating?
and lastly how would I post pictures on my post, ill send you some pics for my K10, low end cabs and mid cabs.
thanks again mate.
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im planning to purchase an amplifier use to drive those T&T subs,
my first choice is the CA20 amplifier from sounstandard. do you have experienced with that amplifiers? or how about the I12
( Iseries) 1500 rms watts at 8 ohms, from TASSO. are they really Class H amps?
or maybe if you will recommend, i ll go for the V12 from konzert. what is its power rating?
and lastly how would I post pictures on my post, ill send you some pics for my K10, low end cabs and mid cabs.
thanks again mate.
more power
maybe ill post some pics later, im still in moderation...
im using the ORG 234 crossover and the 215 band Konzert
equalizer. the top most is tone control with built in amp rated at i think 50 watts rms, for the meantime use to drive my horn tweeter.
hope you could give me some suggestions on what would be a fairly good compressor, i plan to buy one, is ORG ok? ive seen their compressor limiter on thier site. ive also seen the soundstandard compressor limiter.
i have no plan to buy those branded one like the dbx, or DOD cause it is mainly use in our garage...
thanks guys.
more power...
im using the ORG 234 crossover and the 215 band Konzert
equalizer. the top most is tone control with built in amp rated at i think 50 watts rms, for the meantime use to drive my horn tweeter.
hope you could give me some suggestions on what would be a fairly good compressor, i plan to buy one, is ORG ok? ive seen their compressor limiter on thier site. ive also seen the soundstandard compressor limiter.
i have no plan to buy those branded one like the dbx, or DOD cause it is mainly use in our garage...
thanks guys.
more power...
hello jayroe,
Here is also my noise making machines too Alesis MEQ230 Dual 30 band Eq,Wharfdale EZ Verb FX Processor, Phonic PCL3200 Compressor/Limiter/Gate, Wharfedale Procomp Compressor/Limiter/Gate, Behringer Super X Pro Crossover CX3400, Phonic MQ3600 Dual 31 Band EQ on my processor rack. Getting ready for the Christmas season huh
Sound Standard CA20 that's one monster amp he he he, are you into mobile disco or into live sound? matigas mag bass ang K10 (sorry about that mod, having a hard time translating) that is why I prefer the H3000 for driving my bass bins (L36,Sub0, Subscoop) ( malambot mag bass) sorry again mod.
Best Regards,
Audiomachines
Here is also my noise making machines too
Alesis MEQ230 Dual 30 band Eq,Wharfdale EZ Verb FX Processor, Phonic PCL3200 Compressor/Limiter/Gate, Wharfedale Procomp Compressor/Limiter/Gate, Behringer Super X Pro Crossover CX3400, Phonic MQ3600 Dual 31 Band EQ on my processor rack. Getting ready for the Christmas season huh Sound Standard CA20 that's one monster amp he he he, are you into mobile disco or into live sound? matigas mag bass ang K10 (sorry about that mod, having a hard time translating) that is why I prefer the H3000 for driving my bass bins (L36,Sub0, Subscoop) ( malambot mag bass) sorry again mod.Best Regards,
Audiomachines
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hello rolandong,
I would suggest the "Loudspeaker Design Cookbook" by Vance Dickanson. Available at Alexan Commercial. At the end of the book there is a step by step guide how to get the T/S parameter of a speaker using a signal generator, frequency counter, DVM. Good luck
Best Regards,
Audiomachines
I would suggest the "Loudspeaker Design Cookbook" by Vance Dickanson. Available at Alexan Commercial. At the end of the book there is a step by step guide how to get the T/S parameter of a speaker using a signal generator, frequency counter, DVM. Good luck
Best Regards,
Audiomachines
Hello, Audiomachine,
May I know who is the maker of tnt speaker? and also who is the dealer in binondo of this speaker, also the price of this speaker?
how much the power in rms that you used in your sub. do u have a lights in sounds company? can u give the technical information or the block diagram on how to set up the light sound?
Pls. I want to know more about the set up of live sound, because I'm planning to build a light and sounds soon. as of now I have may own power amp. i make it and I tested it for 400watts rms crown instrumental speaker and it sound good. and I'm planning to make it in bridge mode to produce a 600watts rms.
Anyway, my amp is symetrical mosfet, it is design by anthony holton it is av400. it is produce 270watts rms @8ohms, 400wattsrms @4ohms, and according to the designer it is produce 700watts rms @8ohms in bridge mode.
rlg.
May I know who is the maker of tnt speaker? and also who is the dealer in binondo of this speaker, also the price of this speaker?
how much the power in rms that you used in your sub. do u have a lights in sounds company? can u give the technical information or the block diagram on how to set up the light sound?
Pls. I want to know more about the set up of live sound, because I'm planning to build a light and sounds soon. as of now I have may own power amp. i make it and I tested it for 400watts rms crown instrumental speaker and it sound good. and I'm planning to make it in bridge mode to produce a 600watts rms.
Anyway, my amp is symetrical mosfet, it is design by anthony holton it is av400. it is produce 270watts rms @8ohms, 400wattsrms @4ohms, and according to the designer it is produce 700watts rms @8ohms in bridge mode.
rlg.
hello rlg_200
Sorry my mistake dudes, it is not SPL Trading, but Sound Professional Trading and it is located at #3178 Limay St.Manuguit Tondo,Manila not in Binondo, I was thinking about Sherwood Electronics Inc. dealer of snake cables, connectors and wire, sorry about that.
T&T speakers are from China, here is their email ad stp_ho@yahoo.com. I use around 1.5kw rms of amp power per channel on the subs. Sure I can send you a block diagram of a sound reinforcement system. But I suggest you research about sound system engineering, there are so many topics i.e. miking an instrument, choosing a mic, gain stracturing for optimum GBF (gain before feedback), the basics of mixing for live sound, the mixing console, etc.
hello jayrjoe,
Forgot to mention the Labon power amp available at nictron marketing really a monster amp class H rated 2.5Kw rms into 8 ohms more powerful than H3000, CA20 and K10
Sorry my mistake dudes, it is not SPL Trading, but Sound Professional Trading and it is located at #3178 Limay St.Manuguit Tondo,Manila not in Binondo, I was thinking about Sherwood Electronics Inc. dealer of snake cables, connectors and wire, sorry about that.
T&T speakers are from China, here is their email ad stp_ho@yahoo.com. I use around 1.5kw rms of amp power per channel on the subs. Sure I can send you a block diagram of a sound reinforcement system. But I suggest you research about sound system engineering, there are so many topics i.e. miking an instrument, choosing a mic, gain stracturing for optimum GBF (gain before feedback), the basics of mixing for live sound, the mixing console, etc.
hello jayrjoe,
Forgot to mention the Labon power amp available at nictron marketing really a monster amp class H rated 2.5Kw rms into 8 ohms more powerful than H3000, CA20 and K10
hi audio machines,
just viewed your noise making machines, wow that was great
im sure they'll produce pretty lound noises
your right the bass of K10 produces chest thumping, but for now i love to hear tight bass cause i mainly listened to techno and hard techno.
nope, just use my noise maker machines at home, i mean for personal use only, love to hear the roof top of our garage and house cranking.... good thing i have understanding neighbors..hehehe.
i made an inquiry regarding the V12 from K10, its worth 27 thou in peso. is it really a class H amp? very cheap for a class H amp. what is its power ratinG, hope you have pictures and specs. of v12.
thanks again
just viewed your noise making machines, wow that was great
im sure they'll produce pretty lound noises
your right the bass of K10 produces chest thumping, but for now i love to hear tight bass cause i mainly listened to techno and hard techno.
nope, just use my noise maker machines at home, i mean for personal use only, love to hear the roof top of our garage and house cranking....
good thing i have understanding neighbors..hehehe.i made an inquiry regarding the V12 from K10, its worth 27 thou in peso. is it really a class H amp? very cheap for a class H amp. what is its power ratinG, hope you have pictures and specs. of v12.
thanks again
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