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Despacio soundsystem: James Murphy and 2ManyDJs in conversation - YouTube
In London on 19 Dec.
Despacio soundsystem: James Murphy and 2ManyDJs in conversation - YouTube
In London on 19 Dec.
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I'm trying to decide if I'll go see 2manyDJs in Los Angeles next month. Big fan of Soulwax too.
IMHO, some of the savvy EDM guys are starting to realize that music shows are similar to 3D cinema these days. IE, people will pay a premium to see a movie in 3D, and they expect the same from their live shows now too. It needs to be larger than life, just having a band or a DJ up on stage isn't enough.
Over the top audio and visuals can go a long way.
IMHO, some of the savvy EDM guys are starting to realize that music shows are similar to 3D cinema these days. IE, people will pay a premium to see a movie in 3D, and they expect the same from their live shows now too. It needs to be larger than life, just having a band or a DJ up on stage isn't enough.
Over the top audio and visuals can go a long way.
I was a bit disappointed with their own description of it tbh.
I can't remember their exact words but I remember bickering with someone on youtube about it
Something along the lines of 'speakers come with manufacturers recommendatinos these days, they tell you the volume of the box, the length of the port and there you have it, just put the speaker in and go'
I would have liked to have thought that there was a bit more to building an awesome soundsystem than that.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Funktion 1 or B&W or whoever just buy stock drivers with recommendations and don't do any research at all..
I can't remember their exact words but I remember bickering with someone on youtube about it
Something along the lines of 'speakers come with manufacturers recommendatinos these days, they tell you the volume of the box, the length of the port and there you have it, just put the speaker in and go'
I would have liked to have thought that there was a bit more to building an awesome soundsystem than that.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Funktion 1 or B&W or whoever just buy stock drivers with recommendations and don't do any research at all..
I read the description about it and I assume it's very good. But even being a dance system there are some things that are very important and they miss completely. As David Mancuso said, it's important to be closer to the source.
Sound systems are a group of lenses. Starting in the recording and ending up in the room. You can't get very good things if you start with Ortofon Concorde stylus. Just very loud rubbish. I heard the Loft David Mancuso system. No mixer but a Mark Levinson ML 2 preamp designed by John Curl. Klipschorn and class a amplifiers. Mitch cotter turntables, and last but not least the cartridges were Koetsu.
That's the only way to dance... One more thing: sound never more then a fraction over 100 dB. There is a underground party in Portugal that is a little bit like this. They don't mix, they just have a Bozak mixer which is also good for preamp functions, McIntosh amplifiers, custom-made scoops and Ortofon 2M Black in modified Technics. It's The party to go, although difficult to get in and only takes place 2 or 4 times a year. But you never get fatigue. You end fresh.
Sound systems are a group of lenses. Starting in the recording and ending up in the room. You can't get very good things if you start with Ortofon Concorde stylus. Just very loud rubbish. I heard the Loft David Mancuso system. No mixer but a Mark Levinson ML 2 preamp designed by John Curl. Klipschorn and class a amplifiers. Mitch cotter turntables, and last but not least the cartridges were Koetsu.
That's the only way to dance... One more thing: sound never more then a fraction over 100 dB. There is a underground party in Portugal that is a little bit like this. They don't mix, they just have a Bozak mixer which is also good for preamp functions, McIntosh amplifiers, custom-made scoops and Ortofon 2M Black in modified Technics. It's The party to go, although difficult to get in and only takes place 2 or 4 times a year. But you never get fatigue. You end fresh.
I do not think its like that, and my experience is different. My very first and strongest impressions that made me develop a passion for audio were in the early 80's with public address systems, designed for a given room.
In the 80s as a teen I heard 3 systems that blew my mind away.
First, in the old show cabaret of casino de monte Gordo there was a semi circular room with false ceilings and a lot of velvet. Speakers were all around, the very less known JBL 4380 design by George Augspurger Augspurger Monitors | Augspurger Active DSP Main Monitor Systems that in that time worked for JBL, and for room ambiance and reinforcement JBL 4311. All Quad 303 amplification.
For that time this was very high end as rooms designed in the 70s were with sound in mind specially if it was a cabaret/ show room. Although I didn't heard these, in The New York disco scene, with people designing sound systems like Richard Long and the still alive Alex Rosner, that used McIntosh and Altec Lansing for public address and for disco sound, by no means can be considered inferior systems, as there was no difference at that time with the high end used at home.
Displacio sound system like lovetakesoff.com in Lisboa or the loft in New York or even Lucky Cloud in London are all retaining those principles with wonderful results. Sure it's a room full of people and there is laughing and claps and life, but the sound is impacting, faithful with no hint of harshness. It was like that in the old days and it's still possible now, specially in non profit events like these with sound and music in mind.
Other system I heard that is long gone was a dance floor with wood floor and cork ceiling. Speakers were all around in the ceiling pointing directly to the dance floor, and were Tannoy dual concentric 15's. The bass was enlarged by the ceiling it self. There was no real stereo as they were crossed but a sensation of fulfillment that I never found again in any system at home. Amplifiers were valve Radford STA 60. Just to name a few systems that blew my mind away. And I heard more...
In the 80s as a teen I heard 3 systems that blew my mind away.
First, in the old show cabaret of casino de monte Gordo there was a semi circular room with false ceilings and a lot of velvet. Speakers were all around, the very less known JBL 4380 design by George Augspurger Augspurger Monitors | Augspurger Active DSP Main Monitor Systems that in that time worked for JBL, and for room ambiance and reinforcement JBL 4311. All Quad 303 amplification.
For that time this was very high end as rooms designed in the 70s were with sound in mind specially if it was a cabaret/ show room. Although I didn't heard these, in The New York disco scene, with people designing sound systems like Richard Long and the still alive Alex Rosner, that used McIntosh and Altec Lansing for public address and for disco sound, by no means can be considered inferior systems, as there was no difference at that time with the high end used at home.
Displacio sound system like lovetakesoff.com in Lisboa or the loft in New York or even Lucky Cloud in London are all retaining those principles with wonderful results. Sure it's a room full of people and there is laughing and claps and life, but the sound is impacting, faithful with no hint of harshness. It was like that in the old days and it's still possible now, specially in non profit events like these with sound and music in mind.
Other system I heard that is long gone was a dance floor with wood floor and cork ceiling. Speakers were all around in the ceiling pointing directly to the dance floor, and were Tannoy dual concentric 15's. The bass was enlarged by the ceiling it self. There was no real stereo as they were crossed but a sensation of fulfillment that I never found again in any system at home. Amplifiers were valve Radford STA 60. Just to name a few systems that blew my mind away. And I heard more...
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