speakers help

bleach89 · 10th August 2012, 04:33 AM

what would be the best speakers to use with the peavey xr8300 powered mixer for nice clean loud sound that go well over the drums and marshall halfstack?

chris661 · 20th August 2012, 09:35 PM

What's available to you?
What's the budget?
Do they need to handle bass guitar/mic'd drum kit?
Is weight a concern?

... and you realise that relying on the backline (eg, marshall halfstack) to play to the audience is a terrible idea, right?

It just becomes feedback city for the guitarist, unless its a small, quiet gig (in which case, a Marshall halfstack is way overkill).

chrispenycate · 21st August 2012, 10:21 AM

List of useful questions in choosing speakers.

What do you want to run through them? (vocals only, vocals and acoustic instruments, vocals and electronic instruments, the entire band?)

What size room? How many audience? How loud does the music have to be? I suppose how loud can the drummer be persuaded not to play? The more efficient the system, the louder you can get with a given power. A lot of modern speaker systems are designed medium efficiency, good transportability and immense power handling; not optimum for a fixed power system.

Fixed system or potentially mobile? Not only can an installed system be tailored to the environment, giving either a smooth coverage or a planned one (for example making it possible to order at the bar during performances) there are no size or weight limitations on cabinets, which can boost your efficiency at low frequencies considerably (and the more efficient the speaker system is, the less the amps have to work, and generally, the better they'll sound). It also means you might be able to do some acoustic correction to the room; probably not very sophisticated, but removing HF splash or a low mid honk can enormously improve intelligibility, and bass control tighten up the sound without thinning it the way an equaliser would.

What shape is the audience space? A lot of high efficiency speaker systems are rather directional. This means less stimulation of room nodes, less interaction with ceiling/floor, and more precise aiming. Unfortunately, in a wide, shallow room it means more loudspeakers for the same coverage.

While agreeing about the guitar cabinet doing its own distribution being not that good an idea (although this was universal in my youth) a four by twelve is massively better than a one by twelve like a Mesa Boogie. At least the lobing and phase problems give you some impression of high frequencies throughout the hall, rather than a laser-beam of guitar annihilating two lines of seats and everybody else getting a muffled, dull direct sound.

Are we supposed to be choosing just the FOH speakers or the monitors, too?

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20th August 2012, 09:35 PM	#2
chris661 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sheffield Blog Entries: 8	What's available to you? What's the budget? Do they need to handle bass guitar/mic'd drum kit? Is weight a concern? ... and you realise that relying on the backline (eg, marshall halfstack) to play to the audience is a terrible idea, right? It just becomes feedback city for the guitarist, unless its a small, quiet gig (in which case, a Marshall halfstack is way overkill).

21st August 2012, 10:21 AM	#3
chrispenycate diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Geneva, Switzerland	List of useful questions in choosing speakers. What do you want to run through them? (vocals only, vocals and acoustic instruments, vocals and electronic instruments, the entire band?) What size room? How many audience? How loud does the music have to be? I suppose how loud can the drummer be persuaded not to play? The more efficient the system, the louder you can get with a given power. A lot of modern speaker systems are designed medium efficiency, good transportability and immense power handling; not optimum for a fixed power system. Fixed system or potentially mobile? Not only can an installed system be tailored to the environment, giving either a smooth coverage or a planned one (for example making it possible to order at the bar during performances) there are no size or weight limitations on cabinets, which can boost your efficiency at low frequencies considerably (and the more efficient the speaker system is, the less the amps have to work, and generally, the better they'll sound). It also means you might be able to do some acoustic correction to the room; probably not very sophisticated, but removing HF splash or a low mid honk can enormously improve intelligibility, and bass control tighten up the sound without thinning it the way an equaliser would. What shape is the audience space? A lot of high efficiency speaker systems are rather directional. This means less stimulation of room nodes, less interaction with ceiling/floor, and more precise aiming. Unfortunately, in a wide, shallow room it means more loudspeakers for the same coverage. While agreeing about the guitar cabinet doing its own distribution being not that good an idea (although this was universal in my youth) a four by twelve is massively better than a one by twelve like a Mesa Boogie. At least the lobing and phase problems give you some impression of high frequencies throughout the hall, rather than a laser-beam of guitar annihilating two lines of seats and everybody else getting a muffled, dull direct sound. Are we supposed to be choosing just the FOH speakers or the monitors, too?