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Old 6th May 2010, 12:36 PM   #1
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Default The old PA vs HI FI loudspeaker debate again....

My One of my mates buddies Philip Is a total audio snob. Just the mention of the phrase PA makes him look at you like a total tasteless Irchin! He has done tests on audiophile speakers in the past and written in some hi fi magazines.

Me and a group of buddies decided to put him to the test. We had a weekend drinking session arranged and we would test him before the boozing commenced. By the way I LOVE domesticated PA (the good stuff, not cheap crap) and theres lots of it too!

Out with my full party setup...

Kenwood integrated amp KA- 5020
Technics CD player SL - PS740A
Gen Exxa 10 band EQ (LORD HELP ME)
XTZ subamp1
My floorstanding towers loaded with X2 B&C 10MD26, Link dynamics X - over ATP80 Tweeter, Finished with real North American black walnut veneer.
SUB: 29" x 29" x 29" With B&C 21SW150 LF driver.

Music:
Classical: Franz Lizst, La Campanella and Hungarian Rhapsodies.
Drum and bass (dance) DJ hype, The Dogs.... (a hypersonic turntable assult!)
Chart, Owl City, Fireflies.

We sat him down blindfolded (with a damp tea towel HA HA) and begun. Immidately with La campanella he said "I'm utterly speachless It feels like im in the concert hall with him" and asked me what the speakers were,,, and kept asking every 30 seconds after. SHUT UP AND LISTEN i said.

After been blown away with lizst came the power of DJ hype. "never herd lows like that in my life... Jeeezus, Smooth and overwhelming"

Owl City, "sharp powerful vocals with incredible depth, Tight commanding bassline"

All done n dusted off came the fold and a look of terryfing embarresment as he twiddles with the bass controll on the kenwood 5020

He looked Pi**ed off to the max. Phil learnet a very valuable lesson that weekend....... High end hi fi for the most part is pure extortion and ego stroking... nothing more, nothing less.

PA wins hands down when delt with properly...

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Old 6th May 2010, 08:29 PM   #2
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An equaliser is nice thing to have to get rid of room problems, I have a 10band one in the living room setup. Also the VFD is pretty.
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Old 6th May 2010, 08:54 PM   #3
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An equaliser is nice thing to have to get rid of room problems, I have a 10band one in the living room setup. Also the VFD is pretty.
The Inventer of the audio frequency EQ deserves a Knighthood. AMAZING things can be achieved with High end PA with a good EQ. I find that with regarding low end bass, an EQ on the better quality PA woofers makes a mockery of published low end response specs in a domestic situation. Eminence Omega series drivers is a shining example of this. These drivers barely flinch when an 150w 20Hz signal is shoved up them!!!
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I guess many people do listen with their eyes
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Old 6th May 2010, 09:00 PM   #5
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I guess many people do listen with their eyes
Yes Yorkshire folk are VERY wierd!!!!
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Old 6th May 2010, 09:31 PM   #6
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Nice little test, very nice speakers.

Did you have a build thread?
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Old 7th May 2010, 06:28 AM   #7
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My floorstanding towers loaded with X2 B&C 10MD26, Link dynamics X - over ATP80 Tweeter, Finished with real North American black walnut veneer.
SUB: 29" x 29" x 29" With B&C 21SW150 LF driver.
You have great drivers, enough woofer cone area... with proper EQ it should be second to none. More people should get their ears open to what PA drivers can do, properly EQ'ed of course!
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Question: Has "PA" morphed to designate "Pro Audio," or is it still "Public Address?"

Those drivers are "SR" (Sound Reinforcement), no?
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I'd say that PA means Proper Audio...
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Question: Has "PA" morphed to designate "Pro Audio," or is it still "Public Address?"

Those drivers are "SR" (Sound Reinforcement), no?
When I think "Public Adress" Images of crappy plastic moulded cabs with 100w drivers enter my head As I say theres so much crap out there It often ruins the image of "Pro Audio"
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