Suggestions needed about this record

Wavebourn · 19th March 2007, 05:12 PM

What can you suggest about this live record from home concert, except some carpet is needed on the floor to damp resonances between floor and ceiling?

http://wavebourn.com/music/mihalev/mihalev_sample.mp3

Netlist · 19th March 2007, 05:57 PM

I'd make the voice a bit more sparckling although I only listened through headphones. (Beyer DT990)

Most of all I like the language. A perfect match for melancholic songs like this.

/Hugo

Netlist · 19th March 2007, 09:31 PM

I played a bit with your song but have no means of posting the result here. Can I upload it somewhere or mail you?

/Hugo

Wavebourn · 19th March 2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Netlist
I played a bit with your song but have no means of posting the result here. Can I upload it somewhere or mail you?

/Hugo

I'd appreciate if you email it!

FastEddy · 20th March 2007, 01:38 AM

1) Room treatments: Pictures off the wall and outta there. Close the drapes. Lamp and flower pot off the piano and into the next room. A stack pillows in that far corner ... Carpet, of course, plenty thick. Remove that table / amp stand and place the amp on a carpet or rug. Keep any stuffed chairs, throw pillows, soft objects in the room. Get a stool instead of that wooden chair. (Extreme: Close all the doors and cover them with carpeting.)

2) Tune the piano and move closer to the performer (free standing with clearence all around it). Open the piano keyboard. A well tuned piano makes a great resonance piece / a sounding board. This is what made it for Ray Charles = singing right into that piano ... (Hard objects on top of the piano will defeat this purpose = the flower pot, etc. above.)

3) Move the voice mic a little further away. Move the guitar mic a little further away. Set all the mic pre-amp gains to 0 db gain or less when the performer shouts his loudest (the loudest sound pressure level should not drive the mic(s) into distortion / over the red line). If the mic levels are not solid enough, the performer must project = make him stand up.

4) Record multiple tracks, guitar w/ no voice, voice w/ no guitar, mixed w/ voice dominant and mixed with guitar dominant ... then pass all tracks through Pro Tools (or what have you) and splice in the better tracks, stanza by stanza. ... Punch up those tracks that are anemic, defeat those that are offensive === tweak and tweak some more.

There can be more ...

Wavebourn · 20th March 2007, 03:07 AM

Thank you Fast Eddy, but I've asked about that particular record from live home concert, I did not ask for some "How-To Basics For Dummies"

Do you have suggestions how to improve this particular record?

Netlist · 20th March 2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wavebourn

I'd appreciate if you email it!

Message size exceeds fixed limit

(11.600Mb)

You have another mailbox?

/Hugo

Wavebourn · 20th March 2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Netlist

Message size exceeds fixed limit (11.600Mb)

You have another mailbox?

/Hugo

Try wavebourn at mail.ru

Netlist · 20th March 2007, 06:51 PM

Looks like I managed to squeeze the file into your mailbox.

/Hugo

Wavebourn · 20th March 2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Netlist
Looks like I managed to squeeze the file into your mailbox.

/Hugo

Thanks, got 3 parts!

Assembling them...

19th March 2007, 05:12 PM	#1
Wavebourn diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	Suggestions needed about this record What can you suggest about this live record from home concert, except some carpet is needed on the floor to damp resonances between floor and ceiling? http://wavebourn.com/music/mihalev/mihalev_sample.mp3 __________________ The devil is not so terrible as his mathematical model! Wavebourn: We Create Creativity!

20th March 2007, 01:38 AM	#5
FastEddy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Californie	1) Room treatments: Pictures off the wall and outta there. Close the drapes. Lamp and flower pot off the piano and into the next room. A stack pillows in that far corner ... Carpet, of course, plenty thick. Remove that table / amp stand and place the amp on a carpet or rug. Keep any stuffed chairs, throw pillows, soft objects in the room. Get a stool instead of that wooden chair. (Extreme: Close all the doors and cover them with carpeting.) 2) Tune the piano and move closer to the performer (free standing with clearence all around it). Open the piano keyboard. A well tuned piano makes a great resonance piece / a sounding board. This is what made it for Ray Charles = singing right into that piano ... (Hard objects on top of the piano will defeat this purpose = the flower pot, etc. above.) 3) Move the voice mic a little further away. Move the guitar mic a little further away. Set all the mic pre-amp gains to 0 db gain or less when the performer shouts his loudest (the loudest sound pressure level should not drive the mic(s) into distortion / over the red line). If the mic levels are not solid enough, the performer must project = make him stand up. 4) Record multiple tracks, guitar w/ no voice, voice w/ no guitar, mixed w/ voice dominant and mixed with guitar dominant ... then pass all tracks through Pro Tools (or what have you) and splice in the better tracks, stanza by stanza. ... Punch up those tracks that are anemic, defeat those that are offensive === tweak and tweak some more. There can be more ... __________________ Over compression is a problem with modern CD recordings

20th March 2007, 03:07 AM	#6
Wavebourn diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	Thank you Fast Eddy, but I've asked about that particular record from live home concert, I did not ask for some "How-To Basics For Dummies" Do you have suggestions how to improve this particular record? __________________ The devil is not so terrible as his mathematical model! Wavebourn: We Create Creativity!

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19th March 2007, 05:57 PM	#2
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	I'd make the voice a bit more sparckling although I only listened through headphones. (Beyer DT990) Most of all I like the language. A perfect match for melancholic songs like this. /Hugo

19th March 2007, 09:31 PM	#3
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	I played a bit with your song but have no means of posting the result here. Can I upload it somewhere or mail you? /Hugo

20th March 2007, 06:51 PM	#9
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	Looks like I managed to squeeze the file into your mailbox. /Hugo

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