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Old 9th May 2006, 09:13 AM   #11
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darkfenriz,
You're right, but the recording engineer(???) could have atleast done it as good as tape(minus the tape hiss).
Can't believe that the Digital can't even have the treble of the old tape.
These guys nowadays are too lazy

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Old 9th May 2006, 09:27 AM   #12
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Well, there are hundreds of ways to destroy the recording and only several to make it OK.
Tape has some efffects, like high third harmonic, suppressed trebles and slow compression added at dolby correction.
This compression is more like leveller, so does not kill dynamics to this degree.
If the recording engineer cannot make it sound good? I don't know...

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Old 13th May 2006, 12:38 AM   #13
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Yea I hate dynamic compression. I don't see why they don't simply record and mix the album with as little post-processing as possible.

Perhaps many recording engineers don't care about pure fidelity with modern rock/pop but rather try to get it to sound "cool" or put in that "phat" beat.

The recording industry makes no progress.
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Old 16th May 2006, 09:25 PM   #14
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I think, with pop music at least, this compression is used to enable a higher subjective volume to be produced from limited power output, examples being car audio without external amps, portable CD players and of course radio.

Given the high (relative to vinyl) signal to noise ratio, I think this is a real shame.

Another factor could be cheap recording studios and techniques, necessary because of the decline in singles sales.
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Old 16th May 2006, 10:35 PM   #15
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Andy, you are correct. The sound engineers aim for the lowest common denominator, which is basically a portable mono AM transistor radio. Most mass-market CDs tend to be dual mono rather than stereo.

It's a joke.
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Old 21st May 2006, 02:53 AM   #16
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I find it bizarre that even less mainstream music is being over-compressed and mastered so badly these days.

I recently saw Sigur Ros live and their use of dynamic range was masterful, to say the least. I went from being able to hear those next to me breathing to having my trousers flapping at 20 metres, and I'm not exagerating. It would be nice if this was reflected on any of their recordings. I know it is not possible to achieve that kind of dynamic range on any recorded media, but music like that should not sound flat on a good system.

I can understand the latest pop-princess being over compressed like all get-out, given that it is going to most likely end up in some 13 year olds bedroom. But surely you would think that the recording industry understands that people who buy music aimed at a more mature audience might have a decent stereo? Or care?
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Old 25th May 2006, 07:56 PM   #17
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I have to agree with you guys. I absolutely hate to listen to modern compressed and distorted recordings. Compared to good recordings with wide dynamic range they sound simply terrible.
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Old 25th May 2006, 08:12 PM   #18
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I agree with all of you. But let me submit this. Do the majority of listeners care? Most of the kids I know, that grew up listening to 80's metal groups, have no idea of what a live "non-electric" instrument sounds like. Of course not all but, most.

They don't seem to be happy unless the recording has tons of artificial ambience.
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Old 25th May 2006, 08:31 PM   #19
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I agree with all of you. But let me submit this. Do the majority of listeners care? Most of the kids I know, that grew up listening to 80's metal groups, have no idea of what a live "non-electric" instrument sounds like. Of course not all but, most.

They don't seem to be happy unless the recording has tons of artificial ambience.

Heavy metal is my favorite and I'm just as anonyed as you guys are with new cds. While the older cds aren't the most dynamic, they had enjoyable tone if one was into the music. Now they seem to compress things on cd to the point of massive distortion.
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Old 25th May 2006, 08:52 PM   #20
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Add one more to the count.

I would listen to some of the newer stuff more but... All these rock songs are out now with acoustic interludes and intro's with "speaking level" vocals... then bang, they switch to screaming vocals and grunge guitar. It might be a nice dramatic effect... BUT THE VOLUME DOESN'T CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid....

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