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karlw · 10th April 2006, 08:09 PM

This list has to include Sg. Peppers. Dark Side, yes. The Wall, also. For that matter, Final Cut is pretty damn awesome, too.

-Karl

rick57 · 10th April 2006, 11:01 PM

KBK
i only just sawour post - -are yousure "Quincy spent *3 months on the **bassline alone**"

It was damn effective, but how could just a bassline take a long as an album?

Cheers

KBK · 10th April 2006, 11:10 PM

Yep! Quincy Jones spent 3 months getting the bass line right, the story goes. Do a google serach, it might come up. Trying to get the drive, beat, timing, volume, shape, fuzz..etc..all exactly right, for that song. You can hear it..it's wrapped pretty darned tight. Micro changes in the timing is one part of the clueing in on (by the listener) that one..

Perhaps he needed better performances from the bass player instead.

I mean, live albums can rock your butt off too! And that's 'in the can' as it's being laid down.

To really hear what Quincy did..you need to hear the 12" LP of 'Billie Jean', cut at 45 RPM on a good analog system. One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported!

Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'.

karlw · 10th April 2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported!

Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'.

+1!

Glad to run across others who see (hear?) it the way I do. I've had trouble explaining this to some people, and even more trouble finding speakers that don't sound bad. So I built my own. I'm planning to post some photos of the project in the Speakers area, hopefully soon.

I think it mainly has to do with the fact that ports cause a phase shift in the lows. Sealed boxes are faster and the phase of the LF is far more linear.

-Karl

Puffin · 11th April 2006, 12:38 PM

The classic, Classic Album programme was AJA - Steely Dan. Fagen & Becker were just so funny. I think it included more of how the tracks were put together than any of the other shows. I now have it on DVD. Catch A Fire was very dissapointing in my view. I had the orginal album (flip top lighter sleeve - very cool). I "lost" the original vinyl to a "friend" years ago.. I bought it on C.D recently, what a let down it sounded rubbish.

Best recorded album. Seal (KIller, Crazy) album v.good, but stand out track for production and ingenuity is VIOLET. A masterpiece.

rick57 · 11th April 2006, 03:08 PM

Dumb question: (haven’t heard it for years) that is electric bass and not synth?

'Billie Jean' would make a great bass comparo track, if you could keep your mind on the gear and not just enjoy the music

manerotony · 15th April 2006, 07:46 PM

For Musicians Only, Stan Getz with Dizzy Gillespie and Sonny Stitt.
This is my best cd.

Scottmoose · 18th April 2006, 11:38 AM

Ooops, nearly forgot Alan Parson's Quadraphonic mix of DSOTM. Humiliates the SACD mix. Why they didn't just used this is beyond me. Much more powerful and organic than Guuthrie's 5.1 nonsense.

mpmarino · 14th May 2006, 11:40 PM

Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave

This CD has grabbed me for 15 years,,,every time I listen to it

kurtjimi27 · 19th May 2006, 08:27 AM

Siamese dreams-Smashing Pumpkins

Producer-Butch Vig

10th April 2006, 11:10 PM	#13
KBK diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Wilds Of Canada	Yep! Quincy Jones spent 3 months getting the bass line right, the story goes. Do a google serach, it might come up. Trying to get the drive, beat, timing, volume, shape, fuzz..etc..all exactly right, for that song. You can hear it..it's wrapped pretty darned tight. Micro changes in the timing is one part of the clueing in on (by the listener) that one.. Perhaps he needed better performances from the bass player instead. I mean, live albums can rock your butt off too! And that's 'in the can' as it's being laid down. To really hear what Quincy did..you need to hear the 12" LP of 'Billie Jean', cut at 45 RPM on a good analog system. One with CLEAN bass. Usually means.. Not Ported! Then you can really 'get' the micro-changes in the 'drive' and 'rhythm' of the Bass line. Subtle....but 'perfect'. __________________ "Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge. "Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti

11th April 2006, 03:08 PM	#16
rick57 diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: dry ol Melbourne Australia	'Billie Jean' Dumb question: (haven’t heard it for years) that is electric bass and not synth? 'Billie Jean' would make a great bass comparo track, if you could keep your mind on the gear and not just enjoy the music

14th May 2006, 11:40 PM	#19
mpmarino diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Crunchville, where I don't fit in.	Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave This CD has grabbed me for 15 years,,,every time I listen to it __________________ Crazy Yankee.

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10th April 2006, 08:09 PM	#11
karlw diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Mexico	This list has to include Sg. Peppers. Dark Side, yes. The Wall, also. For that matter, Final Cut is pretty damn awesome, too. -Karl

10th April 2006, 11:01 PM	#12
rick57 diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: dry ol Melbourne Australia	KBK i only just sawour post - -are yousure "Quincy spent 3 months on the bassline alone*" It was damn effective, but how could just a bassline take a long as an album? Cheers

11th April 2006, 12:38 PM	#15
Puffin diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: U.K	The classic, Classic Album programme was AJA - Steely Dan. Fagen & Becker were just so funny. I think it included more of how the tracks were put together than any of the other shows. I now have it on DVD. Catch A Fire was very dissapointing in my view. I had the orginal album (flip top lighter sleeve - very cool). I "lost" the original vinyl to a "friend" years ago.. I bought it on C.D recently, what a let down it sounded rubbish. Best recorded album. Seal (KIller, Crazy) album v.good, but stand out track for production and ingenuity is VIOLET. A masterpiece.

15th April 2006, 07:46 PM	#17
manerotony diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bologna	For Musicians Only, Stan Getz with Dizzy Gillespie and Sonny Stitt. This is my best cd.

18th April 2006, 11:38 AM	#18
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Ooops, nearly forgot Alan Parson's Quadraphonic mix of DSOTM. Humiliates the SACD mix. Why they didn't just used this is beyond me. Much more powerful and organic than Guuthrie's 5.1 nonsense.

19th May 2006, 08:27 AM	#20
kurtjimi27 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	Siamese dreams-Smashing Pumpkins Producer-Butch Vig

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