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Old 21st February 2013, 04:10 AM   #251
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I'm sorry that my mention of some CDs sounding worse than LPs caused so much contention. I didn't mean that as a blanket statement. Not all CDs sound lousy. I was simply pointing out that the remastering of "Live at the Apollo" sounded much worse than the LP.
This happens as prominent delivery formats change, equipment has changed, the ears of the mastering engineer have changed or is different, speakers have changed, and overall a reflection of change. Is it really good, worse, better, or just a different presentation?

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But just to make matters worse, I'll say that dynamic range is not IMHO a problem for CDs. They beat vinyl easily in that respect. The problem with CDs is sample rate. At 44kHz sample rate you cannot tell whether an 8kHz signal is a sine wave, a square wave, or a triangle wave. There are just noth enough samples (it takes about 10 harmonics to approximately represent a triangle wave IIRC). Good thing I'm middle aged and my extreme high end hearing is waning ;-)
While I agree with you on the CD's sample rate, the reality is we don't hear music in sine waves, square waves, or triangle waves. It is all of this simultaneously, and that includes acoustical waves and pressure waves as well.

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But even sample rate is not what makes some bad sounding CDs sound bad. It's bad remastering - pure and simple.
And let's face it, great mastering can make a CD sound wonderful as well. It ain't all bad with CD.
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Old 8th September 2014, 10:30 AM   #252
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great albums:

Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Pink Floyd - almost everything
Heather Nova - South
Dire Straits - almost everything
The Police - Their greatest hits

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Old 4th March 2015, 05:58 PM   #253
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New to the forum, and am glad someone has tried to put thee thread back on track
My fav recordings (production qualiity not content) are
The Animals...Before we were so rudely interrupted.....1979 and should be a lesson to all 'sound engineers'
The Communards...The communards
Bill Wyman... Bill Wyman (inc si si je suis etc)
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Old 2nd April 2015, 09:13 PM   #254
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Queens of the stone age
  • Like Clockwork
  • Lullabies to Paralyze
  • (Any other QOTSA really) Josh Homme is HIGHLY underrated

Tool
  • Undertow
  • Lateralus
  • Aenima
Nine Inch Nails
  • The Fragile
  • The Social Network Soundtrack (not really NIN, but Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross)
The Smashing Pumpkins
  • Siamese Dream
Radiohead
  • In Rainbows
  • Pablo Honey
Foo Fighters
  • Wasting Light - purity in recording and mixing - all analog, no Pro Tools.
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Old 26th April 2015, 07:41 PM   #255
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I have always found my very first listening of PF's DSOTM which I recorded onto a Sony 7.5ips reel deck from the radio to be my most favorite of all time (I skipped even the TDK MA-X 90 minute cassettes which did pretty well back then). Yes, there is FM "atmospheric noise" but that just brings me back to that night when I 'discovered it.' When CD's first came out, a local radio station would do a "digital audio hour (or so)" playing a whole CD uninterrupted by an artist. I was not even into my teens but knew of Zeppelin, Beatles, Kraftwerk, Cat Stevens, kind of a wide dynamic range. The repeating "THUMP-thump, THUMP-thump" immediately caught my attention. It is likely my #1 favorite album of all time. I CAN do the drums during that solo before it concludes with "Taking away the moments that make a tall day." But I'd REALLY love to do it for real on a drum set. I have made multiple "extreme quality" digitizations from that tape (without clipping) using pro cards in the 120dB range (super high sampling rate, both normal and extended bit levels, etc).

I also have the "regular original pressing CD" and then the Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab (MFSL) gold disc of it. The "tape slips and 'loops'" that were required to be used back then (I think it was Alan Parsons that did the mixing/mastering) can easily be heard, heh. Plus an odd "tonal change" at the end of the woman's solo where the piano fades out. The key (tone) raises in frequency for maybe one second and then returns to its original (proper?) tone.

I think the cleanest/sharpest MFSL disc I have is Dream of the Blue Turtles and track #1 is an excellent example. Alan Parsons Project works also sound very clean. Murder by Numbers (from Synchronity and the MFSL version) is great in my opinion too. And Wrapped Around Your Finger.

The worst mastered album ever (in my opinion), I am so sorry Mr. 'Mutt' Lange, is Def Leppard's Pyromania (and it is such a great album too). Lots of DSP processing to get it to my liking. It sounds so muffled. I run it through my E-MU 1010 DSP and then out the E-MU 1820m audiodock to the amplifiers (yes, I have one of the very old 1820m models with the DSP processing on a PCI card versus PCIe nowadays). Plus, the 1820m audiodock is no longer available. Frustrating.
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Old 27th April 2015, 12:20 PM   #256
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Default There's a Time

Hi everybody this is my first post.
If you like low key acoustic blues Doug MacLeod ;''There's a Time''
comes highly recommended. A trueClick the image to open in full size. audiophile album. One of my absolute favorites.
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Any new Doug MacLeod release is a cause for celebration. That we have him recorded by the benchmark for audiophiles, Reference Recordings, is a double celebration.

This audiophile has very high expectations from both artist and engineer. They were matched easily. Engineer Keith Johnson has the aural skill and technical know how to capture the spirit of any artist in any acoustic. Within the confines of Skywalker Sound in California, producer Jan Mancuso and her star engineer recorded MacLeod and his drummer and bassist live with no overdubs. Yes, mistakes and all. It’s magical and the antithesis of 99% of today’s studio recordings.

All the songs are from MacLeod’s pen. They feature his unique style and hit right to
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Old 27th April 2015, 01:15 PM   #257
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Default Torn

One more Blues/Americana album. This album has a gorgeous low end, the upright bass is incredible well recorded.
This is one of the albums/downloads I use for tuning ports.

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Her warm, enormously talented and controlled voice is completely unique and she knows how to get pure emotion across to the listener ...
The sound of the album is exemplary with dynamics of an addictive quality......the drums are practically visual and one feels as if one could reach out and and actually touch the singer.

Eric de Boer - Hifi.nl

Gomes Sings "You better come on into my kitchen, 'cause it's going to be raining outdoors" and what a wondrous musical kitchen she possesses.
The utensils are the thoughtfully played musical notes. The chef is Carmen herself, serving a dream-like melodic delicacy. We at Adore Jazz, play the music from Gomes' new CD "Torn" with great joy.

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Old 9th May 2015, 02:42 PM   #258
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The 4 albums mentioned in this great documentary are all available in various formats remastered to hi-res files and sounding very good.
The docu is a must see.
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Old 11th May 2015, 12:33 AM   #259
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Making Music
by Artist: Zakir Hussain
Manufacturer: Ecm Records
Released: 25 January, 2000
Audio CD

At The Deer Head Inn
Keith Jarret

Live recording. Really tests your tweeters (of your speakers ;-) ).

Bob
I concur, those 2 albums are top SQ.
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Old 16th May 2015, 10:12 AM   #260
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This happens as prominent delivery formats change, equipment has changed, the ears of the mastering engineer have changed or is different, speakers have changed, and overall a reflection of change. Is it really good, worse, better, or just a different presentation?



While I agree with you on the CD's sample rate, the reality is we don't hear music in sine waves, square waves, or triangle waves. It is all of this simultaneously, and that includes acoustical waves and pressure waves as well.



And let's face it, great mastering can make a CD sound wonderful as well. It ain't all bad with CD.
There is also a difference between CD's.
One of my favorite jazz albums ,sounds great on LP. The 1st CD version was also very good but in the 90's they came with a 24bit remastered version which sounds absolutely horrible. The mastering is important. Click the image to open in full size.
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