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Old 21st February 2013, 04:10 AM   #251
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Originally Posted by hweb View Post
I'm sorry that my mention of some CDs sounding worse than LPs caused so much contention. I didn't mean that as a blanket statement. Not all CDs sound lousy. I was simply pointing out that the remastering of "Live at the Apollo" sounded much worse than the LP.
This happens as prominent delivery formats change, equipment has changed, the ears of the mastering engineer have changed or is different, speakers have changed, and overall a reflection of change. Is it really good, worse, better, or just a different presentation?

But just to make matters worse, I'll say that dynamic range is not IMHO a problem for CDs. They beat vinyl easily in that respect. The problem with CDs is sample rate. At 44kHz sample rate you cannot tell whether an 8kHz signal is a sine wave, a square wave, or a triangle wave. There are just noth enough samples (it takes about 10 harmonics to approximately represent a triangle wave IIRC). Good thing I'm middle aged and my extreme high end hearing is waning ;-)
While I agree with you on the CD's sample rate, the reality is we don't hear music in sine waves, square waves, or triangle waves. It is all of this simultaneously, and that includes acoustical waves and pressure waves as well.

But even sample rate is not what makes some bad sounding CDs sound bad. It's bad remastering - pure and simple.
And let's face it, great mastering can make a CD sound wonderful as well. It ain't all bad with CD.
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Old 8th September 2014, 10:30 AM   #252
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great albums:

Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Pink Floyd - almost everything
Heather Nova - South
Dire Straits - almost everything
The Police - Their greatest hits

How to unmaster the Lana Del Rey - Born to Die Disc :-)
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Old 4th March 2015, 05:58 PM   #253
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New to the forum, and am glad someone has tried to put thee thread back on track
My fav recordings (production qualiity not content) are
The Animals...Before we were so rudely interrupted.....1979 and should be a lesson to all 'sound engineers'
The Communards...The communards
Bill Wyman... Bill Wyman (inc si si je suis etc)
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Old 2nd April 2015, 09:13 PM   #254
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Queens of the stone age
  • Like Clockwork
  • Lullabies to Paralyze
  • (Any other QOTSA really) Josh Homme is HIGHLY underrated

  • Undertow
  • Lateralus
  • Aenima
Nine Inch Nails
  • The Fragile
  • The Social Network Soundtrack (not really NIN, but Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross)
The Smashing Pumpkins
  • Siamese Dream
  • In Rainbows
  • Pablo Honey
Foo Fighters
  • Wasting Light - purity in recording and mixing - all analog, no Pro Tools.
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