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Old 4th December 2013, 07:51 PM   #1
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Hello,

I have an old MiniDisc player that really is of no technical value these days. BUT, with it are a collection of live recordings from various festivals like Gathering of the Vibes and moe.Down. Late 90's I suppose. Artists like Rob Wasserman, Ratdog, Warren Haynes, moe., Ani Difranco, Martin Sexton. etc.

I do not have any interest in them musically anymore...except a live back and forth between Wasserman and Les Claypool! BUT, is it illegal to sell the recordings? Not copies, but the whole shooting match, MD and discs? They are legal recordings in the sense that the artists allowed sound boards and or mic recordings. So, all "above board" when made. I do not want to create an income from them over time. Just want to see them go where appreciated, but get some money back on the original materials (discs and recorder).

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Old 5th December 2013, 05:33 PM   #2
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Anyone? Even just to say you wouldn't touch the question with a 10 foot pole? Or is this just the wrong forum? Please move if that is best. Thanks!
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I'm not a lawyer but, it seems to me that if it was a public event and the artists allowed recording., then legally the recordings are in the public domain.

However, song royalties might still come into play but for only a couple of copies, the point might be moot .

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I'd kill to hear that bass duo! LC is one of my favorites. But with the disclaimer that IANAL, unless you had specific permission to record and resell, it's not legal.
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Joe, Thanks.

I am in the same camp. And, all I can find online is people ranting about those selling copies of such things. Particularly Grateful Dead and Phish shows that have been traded, but not sold for DECADES. That is a cultural thing that I get. But, I am just trying to give someone else the pleasure of ownership without making a long term profit...or short term profit, for that matter!
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SY,

Even selling once? Really just the player and minidiscs plus anyone's added value for sentimentality are what I am selling. No plans at all to copy and sell to multiple folks.

I will see what I can do to get that duet on digital file for you...for FREE.
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You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Yeah, US copyright law is a *****, and some artists and their labels are highly aggressive and litigious. No idea about those guys. I did a lot of live recording when I was in Austin, and only have posted a few of the files, and always with explicit permission directly from the musician.
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Any good and free encoding software out there? I can imagine audio I/O from MD to sound cards. But, that is usually a WAV file. Then to encode to MP3/MP4, or other? Suggestions?

And, I know this sounds silly. But, what if I sell the MD...with added extra discs. Some with recordings, some without. That is the truth of what I have, anyway! Either that, or they all go in the trash as I have little or no need for the things now.
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Just sell the MD and throw in the recordings for free. If you list it in ad state that fact - "I will throw in the recordings I have for free".
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Any good and free encoding software out there? I can imagine audio I/O from MD to sound cards. But, that is usually a WAV file. Then to encode to MP3/MP4, or other? Suggestions?

And, I know this sounds silly. But, what if I sell the MD...with added extra discs. Some with recordings, some without. That is the truth of what I have, anyway! Either that, or they all go in the trash as I have little or no need for the things now.
Audacity will record whatever is passing through your soundcard and you can export the resultant file as any of many encoded files including MP3.
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