I can do without three quarters of current 'pop' music! I guess it's as or nearly as bad in other countries (especially US?), but the drivel that can pass for 'music' on the radio sometimes, is just beyond comprehension, it's so shiete.
I'm no old git, I'm only 22, but I already despise the pop music industry, and all the crap they keep churning out, to make a fast buck. There is far too much poppy MOBO played here now, it's totally taken over, and it's mostly rubbish! I blame the US...
And the other thing is over-night stars from TV series' like Pop Idol and Fame Academy - awful! With this 'music' the lryics are only the beginning. What really gets me is the lack of originality! I reckon (apart from terrible covers - even easier!) there must only be 2 or 3 song-writers working for these child-monkeys.Sorry for the rant, I should probably unsubscribe myself from this thread before I offend a pop-fan
Any 13YO girls here? No?-Simon
ps-I like the other ~25% of pop music
“You have the paraphernaliac regalia,
Of an athletic supporter.
Adidas In heat.”
- Adrian Belew
I have a friend who composes a lot of music. One evening he played me a particularly moving piece that he had written for some television. He had a boys chorus come in midway through the piece singing in Latin. It sent chills down my spine. Always impressed with his talents I commented that I didn’t know that he did lyrics or spoke Latin. He replied that he doesn’t, and isn’t even sure what the chorus is singing. He had a friend, a Priest, write the Latin parts out phonetically. He wasn’t even sure what they meant. The chorus was in the music as a tonal element. The lyrics, were not important.
This was for television, it would have been cool if there were synergy between the picture content and the lyrics, but hey that that’s television.
Me, I like the lyrics, provocative, meaningful, and well blended with the music.
Of an athletic supporter.
Adidas In heat.”
- Adrian Belew
I have a friend who composes a lot of music. One evening he played me a particularly moving piece that he had written for some television. He had a boys chorus come in midway through the piece singing in Latin. It sent chills down my spine. Always impressed with his talents I commented that I didn’t know that he did lyrics or spoke Latin. He replied that he doesn’t, and isn’t even sure what the chorus is singing. He had a friend, a Priest, write the Latin parts out phonetically. He wasn’t even sure what they meant. The chorus was in the music as a tonal element. The lyrics, were not important.
This was for television, it would have been cool if there were synergy between the picture content and the lyrics, but hey that that’s television.
Me, I like the lyrics, provocative, meaningful, and well blended with the music.
For me, if there are vocal that really stand out from the mix of the instruments then;
For male vocal; YES very important for it to mean something that I like.
For female vocal; NO but very important for it to sound intimate and sexy to me.
I am biased I know
Chris
PS, do you notice that the trend for MTV is like soft porn lately!
For male vocal; YES very important for it to mean something that I like.
For female vocal; NO but very important for it to sound intimate and sexy to me.
I am biased I know
Chris
PS, do you notice that the trend for MTV is like soft porn lately!
I just dug up the Adrian B web site a week or so ago. I was very pleased to see that "Lone Rhino" is available on CD and even more surprised to see that The Bears had done more than one album. Can’t wait to check them out. The ensemble and creative energy added to AB's music and lyrics makes for some great music.
“They feed me cans,
Collect my feces,
I sleep all day,
Protect my species.”
-Dave
“They feed me cans,
Collect my feces,
I sleep all day,
Protect my species.”
-Dave
That Aussie band from the mid '70's I mentioned before, Skyhooks, did something on one of their recordings that I have never heard of before or since. The track is "Women in Uniform" and about 20 seconds before the finish the sound goes something like this:
"womennn-in-yoo-ni-form,
womennn-in-yoo-ni-form,
womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womennnnnn yeaaahhhh" (rest of song)
The thing is, for several seconds the "womeninuniform" word was intentionally sung in a style and at a repetition rate that is about the same as 33-1/3 rpm record rotates, so the first time you play the track you get the idea that your brand new record has a big scratch on it!
Heard them live on stage once - sounded the same. 
"womennn-in-yoo-ni-form,
womennn-in-yoo-ni-form,
womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womeninuniform_womennnnnn yeaaahhhh" (rest of song)
The thing is, for several seconds the "womeninuniform" word was intentionally sung in a style and at a repetition rate that is about the same as 33-1/3 rpm record rotates, so the first time you play the track you get the idea that your brand new record has a big scratch on it!
Heard them live on stage once - sounded the same.
I like the lyrics...
Other genre of music besides the R&B, R&R derivatives have certainly had their share of mindless dreck pushed to the public. The distracting issue with the pop music is industry behind hype, exposure, and maximum sale potentials. Getting hammered with the dreck-de-jour 5-6 times a day as a person innocently attempts to navigate the world is too much, regardless of whether it be quality music or a mindless attempt at replicating Robert Plants tonal elements.
A few abused (and good) non-pop musical selections I would like banned:
Prelude to the Common Man, Erin Copland. Should never again be licensed or used for any television program. It’s a beautiful and stirring composition. Producers must stop using it to show the endurance of the video productions.
Carmina Buraina, Carl Orf. Just for the record, It has nothing to do with science fiction. It’s a musical portrait of some seduction sequence of the Canterbury tails. Long time a go I saw a pseudo Arthurian legend film called Excalibur that made great use of this score. Since then I can’t count the number of Sci-Fi films that have used it for their 30-second trailers. As a rule of thumb, I wont see a movie that promotes itself with this music; the producers have already proven themselves as unimaginative button pushers.
Good lyrics:
I find tone pomes challenging. Not really my thing, but I kind of get what the poets are getting at, an essence of a time place felling or emotion, abstractly portrayed. Sounds like fair game for pop music.
Good music will evoke a visceral response by audibly enveloping portions of the brain. Lyrics seek to enhance this process by further engaging the speech processing centers or our brain and often but not always seeking to identify common human and emotional experiences. When the lyricists creates elements that actually work in this capacity with the music. I, as some form of an audiophile look for this in the music I listen to.
Instrumentals are good, but music with good lyrics is good too.
"As I walk through
This wicked world
Searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity.
I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred, and misery?"
-Elvis Costello
Bill Murray did the best performance I have heard of this song.
"Rock and Roll is the prepubescent cries of hormonal agony" - Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter
-Dave
Other genre of music besides the R&B, R&R derivatives have certainly had their share of mindless dreck pushed to the public. The distracting issue with the pop music is industry behind hype, exposure, and maximum sale potentials. Getting hammered with the dreck-de-jour 5-6 times a day as a person innocently attempts to navigate the world is too much, regardless of whether it be quality music or a mindless attempt at replicating Robert Plants tonal elements.
A few abused (and good) non-pop musical selections I would like banned:
Prelude to the Common Man, Erin Copland. Should never again be licensed or used for any television program. It’s a beautiful and stirring composition. Producers must stop using it to show the endurance of the video productions.
Carmina Buraina, Carl Orf. Just for the record, It has nothing to do with science fiction. It’s a musical portrait of some seduction sequence of the Canterbury tails. Long time a go I saw a pseudo Arthurian legend film called Excalibur that made great use of this score. Since then I can’t count the number of Sci-Fi films that have used it for their 30-second trailers. As a rule of thumb, I wont see a movie that promotes itself with this music; the producers have already proven themselves as unimaginative button pushers.
Good lyrics:
I find tone pomes challenging. Not really my thing, but I kind of get what the poets are getting at, an essence of a time place felling or emotion, abstractly portrayed. Sounds like fair game for pop music.
Good music will evoke a visceral response by audibly enveloping portions of the brain. Lyrics seek to enhance this process by further engaging the speech processing centers or our brain and often but not always seeking to identify common human and emotional experiences. When the lyricists creates elements that actually work in this capacity with the music. I, as some form of an audiophile look for this in the music I listen to.
Instrumentals are good, but music with good lyrics is good too.
"As I walk through
This wicked world
Searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity.
I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred, and misery?"
-Elvis Costello
Bill Murray did the best performance I have heard of this song.
"Rock and Roll is the prepubescent cries of hormonal agony" - Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter
-Dave
I just read the last two posts here so forgive my lazy ignorance
quote>>>>>Instrumentals are good, but music with good lyrics is good too.
Joe satriani and zamfir have showed that their music speaks a tale......when it comes to music I`m pretty selective as the years go on.......I find myself disliking more and asking mysel "self" what happened to the Pink Floyds and the Queensryche or the Eagles for that matter...I think as of lately because I did go out to see a live band (creed)...they were actually pretty good....ya I do go out sometimes when I get dragged
as far as what we hear today you can blame sony music!!!!!!!!LOL....cause they have monopolized the music industry with their label and all you here is the same shight with a different beat
thats what I have to say about that....hahaha
Buh bye
quote>>>>>Instrumentals are good, but music with good lyrics is good too.
Joe satriani and zamfir have showed that their music speaks a tale......when it comes to music I`m pretty selective as the years go on.......I find myself disliking more and asking mysel "self" what happened to the Pink Floyds and the Queensryche or the Eagles for that matter...I think as of lately because I did go out to see a live band (creed)...they were actually pretty good....ya I do go out sometimes when I get dragged
as far as what we hear today you can blame sony music!!!!!!!!LOL....cause they have monopolized the music industry with their label and all you here is the same shight with a different beat
thats what I have to say about that....hahaha
Buh bye
Zamfir!?!
... Also available on 8 track tapes
Last show I saw was Nine Inch Nails.
"Head like a hole,
Black as your sole,
I'd rather die,
Than give you control.
Bow down before the one you serve,
Your going to get what you deserve."
Back to the pan flute dude, is there really something there or did North American introduction by TV commercial simply make him the butt of many music jokes?
... Also available on 8 track tapes
Last show I saw was Nine Inch Nails.
"Head like a hole,
Black as your sole,
I'd rather die,
Than give you control.
Bow down before the one you serve,
Your going to get what you deserve."
Back to the pan flute dude, is there really something there or did North American introduction by TV commercial simply make him the butt of many music jokes?
I see trees of green
Red roses too
I see them bloom
for me and you
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
I see skies of blue,
and clouds of white
the bright, blessed days,
the dark starlit nights
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
I see friends shaking hands,
saying how do you do,
they're really saying,
I love you
I see babies cry,
I watch them grow,
they'll learn much more,
than I'll ever know
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
yes, I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
yup, they don't make them like they used to!
Red roses too
I see them bloom
for me and you
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
I see skies of blue,
and clouds of white
the bright, blessed days,
the dark starlit nights
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
I see friends shaking hands,
saying how do you do,
they're really saying,
I love you
I see babies cry,
I watch them grow,
they'll learn much more,
than I'll ever know
and I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
yes, I think to myself,
what a wonderful world!
yup, they don't make them like they used to!
Don't listen to the lyrics...
This is one of the profound gems my father taught me.
One day when he was drunk, telling me about the different girl friends he had had, he added in one of those rare "bonding" moments: "Don't listen to the words" ('cause they make you fall in love).
Yeah, those were the days when men were men, and you dared not blow-dry your hair!
This is one of the profound gems my father taught me.
One day when he was drunk, telling me about the different girl friends he had had, he added in one of those rare "bonding" moments: "Don't listen to the words" ('cause they make you fall in love).
Yeah, those were the days when men were men, and you dared not blow-dry your hair!
Hi!
Even about all that music industry / making quick (big) bucks stuff you can quote a song:
Covered in sinners and dripping with gilt
Making you money from slime and from filth
Parading your bellies in ivory towers
Investing our lives in your schemes and your powers
You got to watch them - Be quick or be dead
Snake eyes in heaven - The thief in your head
1. Verse "Be Quick Or Be Dead" by Iron Maiden...
Bye,
Arndt
JOE DIRT® said:
Even about all that music industry / making quick (big) bucks stuff you can quote a song:
Covered in sinners and dripping with gilt
Making you money from slime and from filth
Parading your bellies in ivory towers
Investing our lives in your schemes and your powers
You got to watch them - Be quick or be dead
Snake eyes in heaven - The thief in your head
1. Verse "Be Quick Or Be Dead" by Iron Maiden...
Bye,
Arndt
Lyrics... Well excuse me not have read the whole thread.
The first music i became totally devoured was simple and with more simple
vocals.
The Cure managed to offer simple music with some words even an german as
me understood within the first years of learning english language.
The Cure only throwed some strange words in and i started to associate
many things to a simple word. Sometimes maybe to much.
I was Teen, i was depressive, i was strange, and only some words gave me
so much storys to think my world together.
I talk about the early albums like Pornography, Faith, 17 Seconds...
Thats the wonderfull thing about music - lyrics are not really needed!!!!!
The first music i became totally devoured was simple and with more simple
vocals.
The Cure managed to offer simple music with some words even an german as
me understood within the first years of learning english language.
The Cure only throwed some strange words in and i started to associate
many things to a simple word. Sometimes maybe to much.
I was Teen, i was depressive, i was strange, and only some words gave me
so much storys to think my world together.
I talk about the early albums like Pornography, Faith, 17 Seconds...
Thats the wonderfull thing about music - lyrics are not really needed!!!!!
Ole Louis Armstrong...
But yes, I love this song.
Tarun
One of my all-time favourites too. But one has to hear it sung by Louis Armstrong. I've heard cover versions, and none are believable. I guess the old man's voice had some of that guileless sincerity which could carry off lyrics as direct as this one. Others just make the words sound sugary, almost dishonest. (Am I making sense?)sangram said:
But yes, I love this song.
Tarun
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