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Old 27th September 2011, 09:39 PM   #1
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Default Nirvana Nevermind 24/96 Remaster from HDTracks

Downloading this now - very excited

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?f...00602527805641
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Old 27th September 2011, 09:52 PM   #2
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Is it any better than the original?
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Old 30th September 2011, 05:07 PM   #3
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I would also like to know are they as compressed as the CD or are they better?
Please scan them with ReplayGain and tell us the gain value(s) please.
Thanks in advance!

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I listened Territorial Pissings preview on HDtracks and it's the same as CD, if not worse, constant clipping point, I hope "HD" version isn't the same, if it is, you should get your money back...

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Old 29th October 2011, 01:36 PM   #4
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Here is a question i have asked HDtracks several times and they will not answer. WHERE do their tracks come from?? are they just upsampled from CD? I am beginning to think so with maybe the exception of the Chesky stuff. I'm not paying $25 for a HD track unless i know it came from an HD source! I can Upsample my own cd Dammit! or better yet, rip a hi-rez track from Vinyl! But then why not just play the vinyl eh?

I love the "Idea" of HDTRACKS but they have yet to prove they have the goods! and if @erins comment there is correct. THEY DON'T!


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Old 29th October 2011, 01:52 PM   #5
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The HD tracks appears to be from the original master tapes. The frequency response is very good, and reveals the tape carrier frequency ( the lines that run across the whole track)? in the spectral analysis, the only issue is that there is extreme amounts of compression applied, and clipping occurs as a result. So, no, this album is not upsampled, but I have read that some of their other releases have been, and dont even have frequency information above 20khz. You have to do your research before downloading....

I asked Rhino records the same question about another album, (which mastering is it) and they also were unable to answer the question!
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Old 29th October 2011, 02:24 PM   #6
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I have read an audio review about suppliers of digital music file up to 24Bit/192KHz Master Studio quality. Both LINN Record and 2L the Nordic supply true original master. HD tracks supplies some with true original master, but some with upsampling. It is just for reference since it is not formally replied from individual suppliers.
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Old 29th October 2011, 02:28 PM   #7
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I sent an email asking about more info. I have bought quite a bit from them so it is important. Luckily I have only purchased a few HD versions.
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Old 29th October 2011, 03:59 PM   #8
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If you like classical, take a look at [2L audiophile reference] at 24Bit/192KHz in which most tracks originate from DXD at 24Bit/352.8KHz.
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Old 31st October 2011, 09:16 PM   #9
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Here is the reply I received.

No. They are products produced by labels by mastering engineers, producers, artists and label personnel.

We convert and present them in the format that they exist in.

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Old 1st December 2011, 04:09 AM   #10
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I've bought a few HD albums from HDtracks.com.

All except one has passed the "Spek test" - which is to look at the FLACs using SPEK and see the spectrum.

The album that looks wrong is Manu Katche's Third Round, an 88khz 24 bit download. Here's what the spectrum looks like (all tracks are similar). Not only do any of the tracks have any content above 22khz, there is this wierd artifact at about 19kHz (recorded from FM radio maybe

I've written to HDtracks pointing out the problem and they say they have passed it to their technical team. I asked for a refund.

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