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Old 18th December 2010, 02:13 PM   #11
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I loved one of the comments on the You Tube Ella Guru: "There are more ideas in this 2 1/2 minute song than there are in most musicians' entire discography."
There are ideas and there are ideas. Captain Beefheart RIP, but that's some pretty awful "music".

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Old 18th December 2010, 02:37 PM   #12
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but that's some pretty awful "music".


I can't derive any enjoyment outa his caterwauling.
Anyway, 69 years is not too bad. We lost a shint load more talent, a lot younger.

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"Doc at the radar station" is one of my favourite albums.

RIP Captain.
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Old 18th December 2010, 08:39 PM   #14
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I can't derive any enjoyment outa his caterwauling.
Anyway, 69 years is not too bad. We lost a shint load more talent, a lot younger.

This about says it for the Captain. You either got it or you didn't. For those who got it, let's just say we understood him and one another. For those who didn't, there's always time...
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Old 18th December 2010, 08:49 PM   #15
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Old 18th December 2010, 08:51 PM   #16
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Old 18th December 2010, 09:00 PM   #17
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I can't look at a vacuum cleaner and not think of him.

Like him or not Beefheart was a formative dude in the evolution of our music scene. A lotta folk don't like Zappa much either but can admit that both his political stance on freedom of expression and his role in changing our notion of what constitutes art - much like Warhol - was important.

Tempus Fugit and Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose...

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Old 18th December 2010, 09:30 PM   #18
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For those who didn't, there's always time...
No, not really.
The difference for me is a matter of taste and what we get out of listening to music. My experience is more visceral and less cerebral. I'm not looking to hear a stance or a political or social comment. I really don't care what the artists views are.
Just write something that appeals to me and I may like it.
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Old 18th December 2010, 10:47 PM   #19
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So sorry to hear he is gone. His music has meant a lot to me and I think he took the art in a direction that opened a lot of ears and minds. His interpretation of music was a different type of art, it made you listen to the words and painted a picture in the mind of what he saw, no canvas, just words to colour and shape an idea he was trying to form from thin air. To the ones who never heard his stuff, try it and see, an used mind is such a waste.

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Trout Mask Replica is Captain Beefheart's masterpiece, a fascinating, stunningly imaginative work that still sounds like little else in the rock & roll canon. Given total creative control by producer and friend Frank Zappa, Beefheart and his Magic Band rehearsed the material for this 28-song double album for over a year, wedding minimalistic R&B, blues, and garage rock to free jazz and avant-garde experimentalism. Atonal, sometimes singsong melodies; jagged, intricately constructed dual-guitar parts; stuttering, complicated rhythmic interaction -- all of these elements float out seemingly at random, often without completely interlocking, while Beefheart groans his surrealist poetry in a throaty Howlin' Wolf growl. The disjointedness is perhaps partly unintentional -- reportedly, Beefheart's refusal to wear headphones while recording his vocals caused him to sing in time with studio reverberations, not the actual backing tracks -- but by all accounts, the music and arrangements were carefully scripted by the Captain (aided by John "Drumbo" French), which makes the results even more remarkable. As one might expect from music so complex and, to many ears, inaccessible, the influence of Trout Mask Replica was felt more in spirit than in direct copycatting, as a catalyst rather than a literal musical starting point. However, its inspiring reimagining of what was possible in a rock context laid the groundwork for countless future experiments in rock surrealism, especially during the punk/new wave era.

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