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Old 18th July 2010, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default Samba Squad, Toronto street band, 119 dBC peak

This weekend was annual "Salsa on St. Clair" street fair in Toronto, for Latin American festivities. Was thrilled once again by the Samba Squad.

About 15-20 players. 119 dBC, Radio Shack SPL, fast, peak (mostly 116 dBC peaks, 110 dBC routine loud parts, and 100 dBA routine loud parts). Readings taken like from place of that dude with the Tilley Hat in picture. Not bad for all acoustic instruments in the open air (but notice the building 8-12 meters behind them.

Tried their CD at home but had trouble breaking 100 dBC at my sweet spot seat, mostly due to demands on my ESL tweeters as the limiting factor (well, my nerve cranking up the knob really was the limiting factor).

Catch them on Yahoo at

Salsa on St. Clair - Samba Squad Performance (II) on Yahoo! Video

Of course, you really had to be there. Gosh, I wish organ music was that sexy.
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Old 20th July 2010, 12:05 AM   #2
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Some of us organ fans over in the subwoofer forum watch recordings on our computer spectrum analyzers to see what "feet" of pipe is present on recordings... and what we thought ought to be but isn't.

I have a CD of the Samba Squad and "watched" it on the spectrum analyzer. Although recorded in a studio ("20 Hz Studios") sounds similar to the street.

"Samba Squad: Batuque"

The biggest drums are around 65 Hz. The slightly higher drums are 105 Hz.

My hottest recordings these days are, I am sorry to say, just the well-known "flavor of the month" - Gustavo Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra. DGG has been great with "Rite" (no need to ask... but also has the underground surprise, Night of the Mayans) and also "Fiesta" which is incendiary Latin American compositions (no, no El Condor Passa). I hope the LA Philharmonic is as good as those guys.
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Old 20th July 2010, 02:30 AM   #3
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In the Rite of Spring, alluded to above, the side drum is about 41 Hz (with the second side coming in around 47). The large kettledrum is a hair higher than the drums Samba Squad uses.

In Night of the Mayans, also on the Dudamel disk "Rite," a side drum is tuned for 35 Hz. I say "a side drum" because all kinds of drums are being beaten wildly and at low Hzs.
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Old 29th July 2010, 05:53 PM   #4
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It's amazing how loud stuff is if you hit it.

Then again, a 32" drum being hit with a stick is likely to displace more air than most subs are capable of.
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Old 29th July 2010, 06:08 PM   #5
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Interesting.

For car engine power, folks used to say there's no substitute for "cubes." But now a days, peak rpm provides some substitution... but not all. Similarly for cone area versus excursion.

A true horn provides better loading of the heavy block of cardboard known as the cone. But does the cone in the mouth of a horn have to displace as much of the "thicker" air as with a cone direct driving in "thinner"air?

I say this too often here, but for serious "fast" bass peaks, motional feedback is great.
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