Help needed on identifiying sound

jkeny · 9th November 2009, 11:51 AM

I'm posting this here to get a wider audience.

I'm making mods to a USB DAC & as my test CD, I'm using Herbie Hancock's River (The Joni Letters) recorded from CD as WAV to HDD on my laptop. On the recording there are parts (30 secs or so) in some songs that sound like a hiss & I have always assumed that it was a cymbal being brushed but not resolved properly by my system. In other parts of the recording I can distinctly hear cymbal brushing so I'm unsure what this noise is. It's on the first song & the Tina Turner one that I can remember & probably others. I'm not at home so can't give the exact time refernces for these but anybody who has the CD will know what I'm referring to.

So with my modded system I can hear still hear this hiss even though the rest of the recording has more texture & detail to it. Can anyone confirm or otherwise what I'm hearing?

My USB DAC mods are here: M2TECH Hiface USB->SPDIF 24/192Khz asynch

jkeny · 10th November 2009, 10:43 PM

I've put a 5 min WAV extract (49Mb) of the first song here: 4shared - free file sharing and storage - share folder - Music
The hiss I'm talking about starts at 53 secs in.

Can people tell me what they think it is, please

Steve Dunlap · 12th November 2009, 04:35 PM

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have always assumed that it was a cymbal being brushed but not resolved properly by my system.

Perhaps a drum being brushed? I assume you have read all the liner notes.

Steve Dunlap · 12th November 2009, 04:56 PM

In the video, it does appear Vinnie Colaiuta is using a brush on the drum head.

jkeny · 12th November 2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Dunlap

In the video, it does appear Vinnie Colaiuta is using a brush on the drum head.

Excellent, Steve, I never thought of looking for the video - Youtube, I presume? I'll go and search now

jkeny · 08:13 PM

Can't find a Youtube video showing this track being played, Steve, where did you see this?

I had a chance to open the file in Audacity & zoom in to the exact spot that I'm hearing a hiss - at 55.5 seconds .i.e the second peak in the spectrum between 55 & 56 secs in the pic attached.

Looking at this peak, I believe you can see some noise? overlaid on the peak? Correct me if I'm wrong

Steve Dunlap · 12th November 2009, 08:20 PM

YouTube - Herbie Hancock and Corinne Bailey Rae - River Live on Abbey Road

jkeny · 12th November 2009, 11:34 PM

Ah, OK, The Bailey Rae spot - this is a different song & it doesn't have any of the hiss in it but it does show Vinnie Colaiuta's playing as you say - brush on snare drum. BTW, I don't think Bailey Rae works on this song, she doesn't capture the longing or emotion evident in the lyrics, in my opinion.

9th November 2009, 11:51 AM	#1
jkeny Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dublin	Help needed on identifiying sound I'm posting this here to get a wider audience. I'm making mods to a USB DAC & as my test CD, I'm using Herbie Hancock's River (The Joni Letters) recorded from CD as WAV to HDD on my laptop. On the recording there are parts (30 secs or so) in some songs that sound like a hiss & I have always assumed that it was a cymbal being brushed but not resolved properly by my system. In other parts of the recording I can distinctly hear cymbal brushing so I'm unsure what this noise is. It's on the first song & the Tina Turner one that I can remember & probably others. I'm not at home so can't give the exact time refernces for these but anybody who has the CD will know what I'm referring to. So with my modded system I can hear still hear this hiss even though the rest of the recording has more texture & detail to it. Can anyone confirm or otherwise what I'm hearing? My USB DAC mods are here: M2TECH Hiface USB->SPDIF 24/192Khz asynch

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10th November 2009, 10:43 PM	#2
jkeny Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dublin	I've put a 5 min WAV extract (49Mb) of the first song here: 4shared - free file sharing and storage - share folder - Music The hiss I'm talking about starts at 53 secs in. Can people tell me what they think it is, please

12th November 2009, 04:56 PM	#4
Steve Dunlap diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Here	In the video, it does appear Vinnie Colaiuta is using a brush on the drum head.

12th November 2009, 08:20 PM	#7
Steve Dunlap diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Here	YouTube - Herbie Hancock and Corinne Bailey Rae - River Live on Abbey Road

12th November 2009, 11:34 PM	#8
jkeny Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Dublin	Ah, OK, The Bailey Rae spot - this is a different song & it doesn't have any of the hiss in it but it does show Vinnie Colaiuta's playing as you say - brush on snare drum. BTW, I don't think Bailey Rae works on this song, she doesn't capture the longing or emotion evident in the lyrics, in my opinion.

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