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Old 26th June 2009, 04:19 PM   #21
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To be honest, I always felt sorry for Michael and thought of him as the most unhappy and lonely human being on this planet, and my first thought was "at last he got peace

Yea me too.
But FAME in our culture will crush the mind/spirit of anybody really.
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Old 26th June 2009, 04:24 PM   #22
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and my first thought was "at last he got peace"
Same here. This world never seemed to fit him well.

I've got all my MJ music on a loop today.
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Old 26th June 2009, 04:36 PM   #23
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Maybe with the autopsy we will find out if he really did have a skin condition or if it was medically induced by one of those pills.
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Old 26th June 2009, 08:40 PM   #24
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MJ's death at just 50 is tragic and a sad loss but the torment the guy obviously suffered is thankfully over. Although I'm not a particular fan , he was a huge talent and will never be equaled. His musical and performing influence will project way into the future. The accolades he's achieved are well deserved.
Personally I'm very skeptical about the charges that he was accused of , he was just an easy target for the scroungers.

The shows he was to perform in the UK were sold out in 15 minutes and the attention he got during his visit was of hysterical magnitude , for a performer of that age to generate such fan devotion after not appearing for more than a decade is incredible.

RIP dude.
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Old 26th June 2009, 09:06 PM   #25
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Just saw a documentary that told about the life of Beethoven
His life was a missery with great pain
Strangely they found some of his hair
They found that he suffered from severe lead poisoning
It affected his temper and state of mind making him close to mentally ill
They also found that he didnt use any kind of painkiller, so he suffered exstremly much
Instead he focussed on his music
Actually they concluded that his mental problems, and hearing loss, might have been of benefit to his skills
After the documentary there was an american who reckognised Beethovens sickness, and concluded he also suffered from lead poisoning, and from this was able to get medicine to help on his bad mood swings, caused by the lead poisoning

Maybe a reason to be more careful with solder
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Old 26th June 2009, 09:09 PM   #26
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$400M in debt plus all the personal problems the guy had; I would leave this place behind as well.

It's sad that a man with such mental and physical illness was being force back on tour just to cover a fraction of his debt. I know it's hard for some to admit, but he is truly better off.
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Just saw a documentary that told about the life of Beethoven
His life was a missery with great pain
Strangely they found some of his hair
They found that he suffered from severe lead poisoning
It affected his temper and state of mind making him close to mentally ill
They also found that he didnt use any kind of painkiller, so he suffered exstremly much
Instead he focussed on his music
Actually they concluded that his mental problems, and hearing loss, might have been of benefit to his skills
After the documentary there was an american who reckognised Beethovens sickness, and concluded he also suffered from lead poisoning, and from this was able to get medicine to help on his bad mood swings, caused by the lead poisoning

Maybe a reason to be more careful with solder
Wonder what was causing the lead poisoning ?
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Old 26th June 2009, 09:37 PM   #28
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Wonder what was causing the lead poisoning ?
Doctors
Beethoven was actually known to be very hard on his doctors, and later claimed they had caused his illness, so he actually knew, just not exactly what it was
Pretty awful to think about, but food for thoughts as such things do happen still today
And probably what happened til Michael Jackson

btw, just remembered they told about a doctor warning against the medication Michael was on, presumeably to cope with coming tour
He warned that it could kill him
He lived and died for his art
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Many artists do , either knowingly or unknowingly.

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Old 26th June 2009, 11:29 PM   #30
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How MJ will be remembered in the future??
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