The great debate

pinkmouse · 6th December 2007, 09:33 PM

Scene: A South London pub this afternoon, over several beers.

Cast: Yours truly, two musicians, (female), A PA monitor engineer, and a recording studio tape op, (both male)

Proposition: We buy albums from male singer songwriters for the quality of their lyrics, and albums from female singer songwriters for the quality of their voice. True or false?

Saturnus · 6th December 2007, 09:48 PM

False.

chrisb · 6th December 2007, 09:56 PM

to borrow a thought from another thread, Paul McCartney is a male singer song writer, and who buys his albums for the lyrics (or would admit to buying them at all?) I picked up his recent release "Memory almost full", based on printed review somewhere - a huge disappoinment to say the least, as was for that matter the much ballyhooed Robert Plant/Alison Krauss collaboration.

OTOH, one of my recent favorites for both reference testing and listening pleasure is/are the under appreciated Canadian folkie group the Wailin Jenny's, and in addition to meltingly beautiful vocal solos and harmonies, the lyrics can stand alone as poetry. I've seen these gals perform live twice in a small venue (former church), and they never fail to satisfy.

http://www.thewailinjennys.com/

SY · 6th December 2007, 10:51 PM

Not generally true- I buy kd lang and Tony Rice for their voices, Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen for their lyrics. (OK, Joni for her voice, too)

rdf · 6th December 2007, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pinkmouse
We buy albums from male singer songwriters for the quality of their lyrics, and albums from female singer songwriters for the quality of their..

...album covers. Someone had to be honest.

Pano · 7th December 2007, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdf
Someone had to be honest.

Indeed...

chrisb · 7th December 2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdf

...album covers. Someone had to be honest.

Quote:

Originally posted by panomaniac

Indeed...

IIRC, there was no female vocalist on the Blind Faith album, but with the "airplane" cover photo probably sold a few bazillion copies to pubescent teenage boys who couldn't find their dad's Playboy stash

Pano · 8th December 2007, 11:17 AM

Sorry I missed that one.

davidlzimmer · 31st December 2007, 09:36 PM

If we includes me, then it's the voice for male or female. I know the words to maybe three songs.

"Should old acquaintance be forgot..........." Don't know that either

myglaren · 1st January 2008, 05:06 AM

My music purchases lean disproportionately over towards female vocalists.
Some of these, significantly Mylène Farmer, sing in languages I don't comprehend.

Also, Dead Can Dance, who sing in a language no-one comprehends (she makes it up as she goes along)

So that pretty much gives the game away as far as it concerns my tastes.

6th December 2007, 09:33 PM	#1
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	The great debate Scene: A South London pub this afternoon, over several beers. Cast: Yours truly, two musicians, (female), A PA monitor engineer, and a recording studio tape op, (both male) Proposition: We buy albums from male singer songwriters for the quality of their lyrics, and albums from female singer songwriters for the quality of their voice. True or false? __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

6th December 2007, 09:56 PM	#3
chrisb diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: victoria BC	can't entirely agree to borrow a thought from another thread, Paul McCartney is a male singer song writer, and who buys his albums for the lyrics (or would admit to buying them at all?) I picked up his recent release "Memory almost full", based on printed review somewhere - a huge disappoinment to say the least, as was for that matter the much ballyhooed Robert Plant/Alison Krauss collaboration. OTOH, one of my recent favorites for both reference testing and listening pleasure is/are the under appreciated Canadian folkie group the Wailin Jenny's, and in addition to meltingly beautiful vocal solos and harmonies, the lyrics can stand alone as poetry. I've seen these gals perform live twice in a small venue (former church), and they never fail to satisfy. http://www.thewailinjennys.com/ __________________ you don't really believe everything you think, do you? community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com commercial site planet10-HiFi

6th December 2007, 10:51 PM	#4
SY diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicagoland Blog Entries: 1	Not generally true- I buy kd lang and Tony Rice for their voices, Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen for their lyrics. (OK, Joni for her voice, too) __________________ If there's a sucker born every minute, where do the rest of them come from?

8th December 2007, 11:17 AM	#8
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	Sorry I missed that one. __________________ Take the Speaker Voltage Test!

31st December 2007, 09:36 PM	#9
davidlzimmer diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairmount, GA	If we includes me, then it's the voice for male or female. I know the words to maybe three songs. "Should old acquaintance be forgot..........." Don't know that either __________________ Poor stereo mix? Switch to mono! Perfect.


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6th December 2007, 09:48 PM	#2
Saturnus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark	False.

1st January 2008, 05:06 AM	#10
myglaren diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2007	My music purchases lean disproportionately over towards female vocalists. Some of these, significantly Mylène Farmer, sing in languages I don't comprehend. Also, Dead Can Dance, who sing in a language no-one comprehends (she makes it up as she goes along) So that pretty much gives the game away as far as it concerns my tastes.

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