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Old 6th August 2010, 09:31 PM   #621
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I might have missed it, but I did not see any exact damping specs. Which material, which walls, sizes, etc. I saw some photos in this thread which led me to believe there is no heavy wall damping with bitumen like mass of any kind?
No bitumen or "heavy wall damping" as you say. The only damping is on the same page that shows wiring:

Elsinore Wiring

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Old 6th August 2010, 10:06 PM   #622
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Thanks Joe, I am almost hooked

I don't have access to Dacron, but I used Sonofil from Intertechnik in the past which seems to have similar density. The problem is that it comes in only one thickness which is 40mm, so I will have some trouble making it thinner.

What about the quality of the tweeter cap? I am thinking of using inexpensive Audyn MKT. I know everyone seems to like expensive caps in series with tweeter, but I don't know how much this really matters in real life.
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Quallity caps in series DO matter. But who says they have to be expensive

tjek this out. Humble Homemade Hifi

I'm using Carity caps SA MKP. they only cost a fraction more than the Audyn caps your using and they are fantastik
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CCU, thanks for that! I was really not prepared to spend ~120eur on two caps... I see that they even provide samples, so I will try that first.

Where do you buy them from?
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Quallity caps in series DO matter. But who says they have to be expensive...

I'm using Carity caps SA MKP. they only cost a fraction more than the Audyn caps your using and they are fantastik
I have been using ClarityCap ESA 0.22uF/630V as coupling caps in my tube amps and they are very nice indeed. Would also do pretty good in the Elsinores I suspect. While more expensive than SA they are still very good value.

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I buy them at HiFi DIY products and accessories - Welcome - gato-shop.com

They are the cheapest place i could find. They have fast and good service. Plus very cheap shipping(at least in Denmark)

Bonus info. The SA series is also used in Neeper's Perfection One speaker. that also says something about the quallity of the caps. Because they sound amazing
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Thanks Joe, I am almost hooked

I don't have access to Dacron, but I used Sonofil from Intertechnik in the past which seems to have similar density. The problem is that it comes in only one thickness which is 40mm, so I will have some trouble making it thinner.

What about the quality of the tweeter cap? I am thinking of using inexpensive Audyn MKT. I know everyone seems to like expensive caps in series with tweeter, but I don't know how much this really matters in real life.
Hmm. I am trying to think. Assuming the density is about right, the back three pieces should be double 40mm = 80mm layer. Using the weight as a guide that should weigh about 400gr and a bit - and no more than 500gr max?

I looked at the link you gave and you say 40mm thick, but the size is not shown and no weight. Otherwise I could have helped a bit more?

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Hmm. I am trying to think. Assuming the density is about right, the back three pieces should be double 40mm = 80mm layer. Using the weight as a guide that should weigh about 400gr and a bit - and no more than 500gr max?

I looked at the link you gave and you say 40mm thick, but the size is not shown and no weight. Otherwise I could have helped a bit more?

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Here's the link. There used to be a datasheet for it, but cannot find it there anymore:

IT Speaker Shop - SONOFIL/W/SB | Damping :: Accessories and Miscellaneous ::
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Here's the link. There used to be a datasheet for it, but cannot find it there anymore:

IT Speaker Shop - SONOFIL/W/SB | Damping :: Accessories and Miscellaneous ::
1000mmX350mmX40mm
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Found the full specs, but there is no density info:

Intertechnik Dämmatten Sonofil SO/1/W (IT1343336) bei Trenkenchu & Stadler GbR

There is a link to pdf on the bottom.
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