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Old 7th April 2007, 01:22 AM   #41
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whys that?
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Old 7th April 2007, 05:01 AM   #42
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Hmm, because of acoustic phase issues and coherense

In a surround setup you are often more than one person (?), and not positioned in the sweet spot

Imagine a standard center speaker with a tweeter and two 6", one on each side - listening off axis means different distance to each 6", not the very best situation

I admit I havent tried it, but generally there are many things in favour of coaxials and with low xo point it ought to work very well as a center - but I havent yet seen any detailed construction

Maybe a good fullrange would work too, but it dont stand severe abuse
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Old 7th April 2007, 07:25 AM   #43
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but i need it to be timbre matched with the elsinores. i think my only option is the 6.5" Peerless HDS PPB and the Peerless HDS tweeter...
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but i need it to be timbre matched with the elsinores. i think my only option is the 6.5" Peerless HDS PPB and the Peerless HDS tweeter...
The problem is that either you do the hard yards yourself or find a suitable design. Being a middle channel you'd probably look for a 5" based design. Either a single driver with tweeter in vertical alignment or two drivers laterally with tweeter in the centre. Either way in order to get the symmetry right.

Question - did you use PPB cones or the Nomex, 830874 or 830875?

Material related to Elsinore Mk2 is now posted.

The main page is www.customanalogue.com/e lsinore/elsinore_index.htm and this has a nice picture of a veneered pair in my sound room.

The more technical details/updates are found here: www.customanalogue.com/elsinore/elsinore_mk2.htm


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Wonder how it would work with a redesigned "Elsinore" as a power center - same drivers and same crossover
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Wonder how it would work with a redesigned "Elsinore" as a power center - same drivers and same crossover
Wonder not!

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Old 7th April 2007, 04:52 PM   #47
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Well, here is what I actually suggested in the first place

http://www.madisound.com/MD04.html

And will probably work fine as rear speakers too

And you can even get cheap cabinets
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Old 7th April 2007, 07:48 PM   #48
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I used the PPB cone.

i already have a complete system, but nothing matches and it bugs me!

i've got a JBL EC35 center, paradigm mini monitor rears, and Angstrom subwoofer.

i would like everything to be timbre matched, but aren't i obligated to use the PPB cone (whether 5" or 6.5") and the HDS tweeter?
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I used the PPB cone.

i already have a complete system, but nothing matches and it bugs me!

i've got a JBL EC35 center, paradigm mini monitor rears, and Angstrom subwoofer.

i would like everything to be timbre matched, but aren't i obligated to use the PPB cone (whether 5" or 6.5") and the HDS tweeter?
I may be able to help, but we are talking about a single 5" HDS PPB with XT25 tweeter. If used above listening height, the tweeter must be above the 5" and if below, then the tweeter must be below 5". It's a small 7 Litre approx box tuned just under 50Hz with a rear port. The overall voicing is compatible with Elsinores. The crossover techniques are similar etc. Interested?

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yeah im interested! we can't use the peerless tweeter instead?
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