anyone seen this design?
http://www.customanalogue.com/elsinore/elsinore_index.htm
what do you guys think of the design? looks incredible to me. anyone have some insight? maybe someone has built these themselves?
http://www.customanalogue.com/elsinore/elsinore_index.htm
what do you guys think of the design? looks incredible to me. anyone have some insight? maybe someone has built these themselves?
the MM-MTM is an effective way of using 4 smaller drivers (on the front of the box).
A number of people have been showing the effectiveness of waveguide loading of a dome tweeter.
Too much XO for my taste thou (and i'd put the bottom 2 drivers on the back)
From the red bullet points. the line soouce coupling at LF is misleading & i don't see anything novel about the XO.
dave
A number of people have been showing the effectiveness of waveguide loading of a dome tweeter.
Too much XO for my taste thou (and i'd put the bottom 2 drivers on the back)
From the red bullet points. the line soouce coupling at LF is misleading & i don't see anything novel about the XO.
dave
Too much xover??? You cant be serious.
I would have to say it is a very simple & effective xover. If you take a look at the mid-bass the only series components are a shelving filter, the tweeter just cap & resistor, bass single inductor - it doesnt get much simpler - unless you like single 'part-range' drivers.
As for reffering to the bass acting as a line source he maybe stretching it a little , but still you have 4 drivers spaced apart covering the bass that is still going to work pretty effectively.
http://www.customanalogue.com/elsinore/elsinore_7.htm
I would have to say it is a very simple & effective xover. If you take a look at the mid-bass the only series components are a shelving filter, the tweeter just cap & resistor, bass single inductor - it doesnt get much simpler - unless you like single 'part-range' drivers.
As for reffering to the bass acting as a line source he maybe stretching it a little , but still you have 4 drivers spaced apart covering the bass that is still going to work pretty effectively.
http://www.customanalogue.com/elsinore/elsinore_7.htm
Ap said:
I'm perfectly serious. Just look at the impedance curve. ignoring the bass peak we have 8->18->4 ohms. Both XOs are in the critical band.
For the kind of design philosophy it is in, it is pretty simple, but that isn't where i am.
We have played with the HDS drivers and they aren't my cup of tea.
I have every respect for Joe as a designer, but we aren't currently inhabitting the same page as far as speaker design philosophy goes. Within the class of speaker he is targeting i expect this to be very good. He certainly is paying a lot of attention to the kinds of issues involved in this kind of design.
Using Griffin, the line of drivers -- at the ~ XO point of the LF pair -- transitions to a point source at about 1m. As the frequency goes lower the transition happens closer to the speaker. So it doe snot act like a line source at all. The drivers are close enuff to act very effectly as a larger driver.
dave
"I'm perfectly serious. Just look at the impedance curve. ignoring the bass peak we have 8->18->4 ohms. Both XOs are in the critical band."
Ok, so the xover 'point' you dont like but that is different to too much xover & I dont understand the issue with impedance peaks- personaly I think the design is quite simple.
I agree about the bass, it does act more like a large woofer.
Ok, so the xover 'point' you dont like but that is different to too much xover & I dont understand the issue with impedance peaks- personaly I think the design is quite simple.
I agree about the bass, it does act more like a large woofer.
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