What do you think of this design?

[PoorSound]

Alright i'm still just tossing around ideas right now...wanting to built the perfect speaker for me! you guys have been a HUGE help. After reading up on some peerless speakers and kits, i found this. looks sexy. what do you think?

http://www.customanalogue.com/elsino...nore_index.htm

Everything is there for me...although i would rather use the Peerless HDS tweeter instead of the Vifa.

so, how hard would these be to power? i have an Harman/Kardon AVR335 receiver...and how would these sound with movies?

thanks guys!

[Hadamona]

I have the same reciever (rated as 7x55wrms), I'm not sure how low an impedance this receiver is able to operate with. I would think if you keep an impedance above 3-ohm it should comfortably drive a set of speakers, as you liked to, quite fine.

PS, I'm sure that if you're only operating the two front channels the power is combined to make 2x110wrms?

[Calvin]

Hi,

the project looks very ok to me too
I made a similar but more compact project with just two high efficiency 6.5" Vifa drivers and the XT25 placed between those and loaded with a spherical horn. Even the crossover layout is similar and the result is an very easy to drive, very efficient and very good sounding speaker.
So apart from beeing bigger and having a lower f-3 in the bass than my speaker, I guess that the Elsinore will perform equally very well.


jauu
Calvin

[PoorSound]

Hmm..i'm not sure if its 110x2 to tell you the truth! i will have to check on that

that speaker you built there looks great...i'm really torn here.

i know those speakers are fairly big...but how "crisp" will they sound? i think i'm asking too much out of a speaker...i want something that will sound super crisp and beautiful, but be able to turn it up REALLY loud. i've always had the idea in my head that smaller speakers are alot more crisp. also, it seems to be that 4 midbass drivers would kinda drown out one tweeter.

[Cal Weldon]

Originally posted by Hadamona
PS, I'm sure that if you're only operating the two front channels the power is combined to make 2x110wrms?

I have the H/K AVR 40 rated at 55 X 5 or 65 X 2. I know it's a different unit but...

Besides, H/K is notoriously underrated.

[PoorSound]

i shouldnt' have a problem driving those hey? and they will sound quite nice with the Peerless HDS tweeter and Peerless HDS mid/woofers?

[RJ]

Originally posted by PoorSound
It seems to be that 4 midbass drivers would kinda drown out one tweeter.

Not really. More midbass drivers up the sensitivity. If the midbass drivers are wired series-parallell than the load would be around 6 ohms minimum and the extra 2 midbass units correct for baffle step losses.
Another plus in using 7" or smaller drivers is the finer bass resolution.
Instead of having one 12" woofer doing the work you have 4 - 7 inchers equally distrubuting the air mass in a radiating pattern that ameliorates floor bounce.
"Line-Source Effect at Low Frequencies - for optimum Room Coupling"
You can get a floor bounce calculator here;
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/pjay99s...eakerhome.html
Download boxycad2.xls....

Also, checkout Zaph's 6-7" driver tests for a good midbass driver;
http://www.zaphaudio.com/6.5test/

I'm using 4 Dayton DA175's in an MTMWW setup with a Seas 27TDFC tweeter. The bass is just awesome, clean & crisp and matches the Seas tweeter perfectly.

[PoorSound]

Will there be a problem swapping out the Vifa sweeter for the Peerless HDS tweeter? will anything have to change?

[RJ]

Originally posted by PoorSound
Will there be a problem swapping out the Vifa sweeter for the Peerless HDS tweeter? will anything have to change?

Did you mean the Seas tweeters??
I've had the Peerless HDS and The Dayton RS28a tweeters in these boxes. The difference between the HDS & 27TDFC was minimal. The HDS sounded only 5% better as did the RS28a's.
So I'm saving the HDS for a more esoteric speaker design.
Both the 27TDFC and 27TBFC/G sounded superb with these Dayton DA175's. I just came to like the softer dome a tad better. The hard dome 27TBFC/G sounded better with Rock and Heavy Metal.
They're interchangeable. I swap them out every now and than as mood dictates.
There are two other designs I'm currently working on.
The Sextets;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...W_3waymod1.gif
The Pristinas (pictured) are already built but I'm also building a set with Dayton RS180's instead of the DA175's.
The MidDome is the RS28 and the tweeter is the Dayton 3/4" Neo.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...naOutdoors.jpg

[PoorSound]

those look liek great designs!

i was talking about swapping the Vifa out of the original design i posted, with the Peerless HDS. Would that be a problem?