dayton br-1 or swan m-200s?

honfatboy · 10th August 2006, 06:01 AM

I need a small bookshelf for an apartment with very thin walls.

I like the idea of the swans and have heard them.

I like the idea of BR-1 so I can start down the dangerous road of DIY.

Any thoughts? Anybody heard them both?

honfatboy · 11th August 2006, 12:07 AM

okay, anybody have experience with either?

preiter · 11th August 2006, 12:25 AM

I have the BR-1s.

I thought the manual gave a great introduction to DIY speaker building. They were also really easy to put together.

One warning is that they are pretty inefficient. They sound much better with a powerful amp (my gainclone works well). Don't try to drive them with a T-Amp.

The sound is pretty good for the price. Don't expect audiophile quality for $150, though.

honfatboy · 11th August 2006, 06:38 AM

Thanks for the input!

David

BretH · 11th August 2006, 08:42 PM

Once you get them you can go further down the DIY path and implement Dennis Murphy'd BR-1 crossover modification:

http://murphyblaster.com/content.php?f=pe_br1.html

owdi · 12th August 2006, 02:07 AM

When you consider the cost of a finished cabinet (with nice grils and terminals), amplifier, speakers and crossover, the Swan M200's are difficult to beat. I have a pair, and have considered buying another pair just for the cabinets and amplifier. They are a great value.

The TN28 tweeter used in the M200s is readily available at madisound and partsexpress, but I haven't found the woofer anywhere. I think an interesting project would be to buy the M200s, and upgrade only the woofer. It's already top mounted, and you could easily fit a 15cm wide driver with little modification. The Dayton RS150S-8 would be a great choice.

Dan

honfatboy · 12th August 2006, 05:40 AM

Thanks for both replies.

Thanks for the murphyblaster site! I hadn't seen that one.

Owdi, I had also thought about replacing the drivers. Can you tell me if the Swans have a two channel or four channel internal amplifier? Do you have specs on the crossover?

owdi · 12th August 2006, 08:50 AM

I remember reading somewhere it's two channel, the mid is 8 ohm nominal, and the xover freq is around 1800hz. I haven't cracked mine open to check though, but nearfield measurements of the tweeter seem to confirm it.

Dan

10th August 2006, 06:01 AM	#1
honfatboy diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lubbock, TX	dayton br-1 or swan m-200s? I need a small bookshelf for an apartment with very thin walls. I like the idea of the swans and have heard them. I like the idea of BR-1 so I can start down the dangerous road of DIY. Any thoughts? Anybody heard them both?

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11th August 2006, 12:07 AM	#2
honfatboy diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lubbock, TX	okay, anybody have experience with either?

11th August 2006, 12:25 AM	#3
preiter diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	I have the BR-1s. I thought the manual gave a great introduction to DIY speaker building. They were also really easy to put together. One warning is that they are pretty inefficient. They sound much better with a powerful amp (my gainclone works well). Don't try to drive them with a T-Amp. The sound is pretty good for the price. Don't expect audiophile quality for $150, though.

11th August 2006, 06:38 AM	#4
honfatboy diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lubbock, TX	Thanks for the input! David

11th August 2006, 08:42 PM	#5
BretH diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northeast	Once you get them you can go further down the DIY path and implement Dennis Murphy'd BR-1 crossover modification: http://murphyblaster.com/content.php?f=pe_br1.html

12th August 2006, 02:07 AM	#6
owdi diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bellevue, WA	When you consider the cost of a finished cabinet (with nice grils and terminals), amplifier, speakers and crossover, the Swan M200's are difficult to beat. I have a pair, and have considered buying another pair just for the cabinets and amplifier. They are a great value. The TN28 tweeter used in the M200s is readily available at madisound and partsexpress, but I haven't found the woofer anywhere. I think an interesting project would be to buy the M200s, and upgrade only the woofer. It's already top mounted, and you could easily fit a 15cm wide driver with little modification. The Dayton RS150S-8 would be a great choice. Dan

12th August 2006, 05:40 AM	#7
honfatboy diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lubbock, TX	Thanks for both replies. Thanks for the murphyblaster site! I hadn't seen that one. Owdi, I had also thought about replacing the drivers. Can you tell me if the Swans have a two channel or four channel internal amplifier? Do you have specs on the crossover?

12th August 2006, 08:50 AM	#8
owdi diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bellevue, WA	I remember reading somewhere it's two channel, the mid is 8 ohm nominal, and the xover freq is around 1800hz. I haven't cracked mine open to check though, but nearfield measurements of the tweeter seem to confirm it. Dan

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