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6th December 2002, 10:09 PM  #1 
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help, need some figures
hi guys,
does anyone have/know a link to find the following numbers: Linear Exercursion  Xmax & Exercursion  Vd for: Vifa M25WO4908 and if possible Vifa C17WG6908, Vifa D26NC1506 thanks in advance, Alex 
6th December 2002, 10:42 PM  #2 
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6th December 2002, 10:47 PM  #3 
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that's where i've got everything so far except for Xmax and Vd, vifa don't state the xmax or vd
unless they are codewords for something else? Alex 
6th December 2002, 10:48 PM  #4 
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is Xmax Air Gap height?

6th December 2002, 11:15 PM  #5 
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Hang ongot the figures right here. Take a moment to calculate.
Air Gap Height is part of the Xmax calculation. Will explain momentarily. 
6th December 2002, 11:19 PM  #6 
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thanks bud, so can you work it out with a formula from the stats provided from vifa?
if so the D26NC1506 datasheet can be found HERE as dst only have the newer 5506 version, if you use a formula can you provide it so i can work out future xmax values, thanks in advance, Alex 
6th December 2002, 11:36 PM  #7 
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First the formulas for Xmax and Vd
Xmax = maximum one way excursionfrom center to extreme Vd = Volume of air displaced, (moved), by the driver. Sometimes Xmax is given as fronttoback linear travel, but it should be given as centertoend. Here are the formulas: 
6th December 2002, 11:51 PM  #8 
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For the Vifa M25W04908:
The Effective Diaphragm Area, (Sd), = 346 square cm. The Voice Coil Height is 14 mm. The Air Gap Height is 6 mm. Therefore, the Linear Xmax is (+ or ) 4 mm. Therefore, Vd = 346 sq. cm times .4 cm = 138.4 cc. For the Vifa C17WG6908: The Effective Diaphragm Area, (Sd), = 143 sq. cm. The Voice Coil Height is 12 mm. The Air Gap Height is 6 mm. Therefore, the Linear Xmax = (+ or ) 3 mm. Therefore, Vd = 143 sq. cm times .3 cm = 42.9 sq. cm. For the Vifa D26NC5506, (the new substitute for the 2615) Effective Diaphragm Area, (Sd) = 7 sq. cm. The Air Gap is longer than the Voice Coil by .5 mm. I assume that means it can move linearly (+ or ) .25 mm. Don't hold me to that. It's a tweeter anywaythings are different. Estimated Vd = 7 sq cm times .025 cm = .175 cc. By the way, mechanical Xmax for woofers is usually 1.5 to 2 times the Linear Xmax. Do you have the response charts for the C17 WG? If not, they are located here: http://www.mass.com.au/masssales/pdf/C17WG6908.pdf I'll recheck the figures and edit if necessary. If I am off on the calculations, as an American I can blame it all on Metric!! 
6th December 2002, 11:54 PM  #9 
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thanks,
now when the software calculates port sizes, when you chnage from 1 to 2 ports the length doubles plus a bit. for e.g. currently with one port 66mm diameter and 100.4mm long when i change to two ports @ 66mm diameter i get 249.1mm length. now is the 249.1mm the total length for both ports or 2 ports @ 249.1mm length? being around 500mm total? thanks, Alex yes i have the charts 
7th December 2002, 12:01 AM  #10 
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That would be 249 mm for each port tube. Each tube will be 66 mm times 249 mm.

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