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Old 20th July 2006, 08:17 AM   #1
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Default Budget DIY, I tried searching

Hey Guys and Gals, I'm just trying to make up some budget tower style speakers for home, this will be my first dive into home audio, but I am quite into Car audio and currently run an IDQ15" sub and have a set of DLS UP36 3 way splits, so I do like nice sound. Now here is the challenge at this moment I'm currently just looking for drivers cheap ones, I've been looking at some of the Jaycar/Response stuff thats about my budget of course cheaper would be great. Now they will be going into a 6x6 metre room and will be used for movies and music, and size isn't to much of an issue being sensible of course, a sub setup will come later probably and I will probably find an amp capable of about 2 x 100wrms. I hope you guys can help me as I really don't know where to start as far as home audio goes.

Thanks heaps guys.

p.s. I'm sorry this has probably been asked before but I did search and didn't really find what I wanted.
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Old 20th July 2006, 09:54 AM   #2
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Just thought I'd add you can get some of this Morel Car audio equipment very cheap over here in AUS.

http://www.fastfoursforumscarclub.co..._pricelist.pdf

I would possibly look at the tweeters but I'm not sure maybe a bit more then I wanted to spend considering I've heard very good things about some of the vifa tweeters.

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Old 20th July 2006, 10:48 AM   #3
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Hi,

Cheap drivers and no idea about hifi crossover design = poor sound.
Cheap drivers can be used, but you need measuring equipment and a very
large dose of knowing exactly what you are doing to achieve good results.

Far field listening in a real room is far more complicated than setting
up car systems, and car systems are a lot more flexible + less critical.

If a sub is going to be added a simple pair of stand sealed two ways is best.
If no sub is going to be added a floorstanding MTM vented two way is best.
(Or a floorstanding TMM 2.5 way)
Halfway house between the two is a stand mounted sealed MTM.

Going cheap on the drivers doesn't make a lot of sense given the
time you will spend making a decent pair of cabinets (and stands).

Seas + Vifa are available in australia, checkout :

http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker16.html

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Old 20th July 2006, 12:32 PM   #4
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I also think it is a good idea to say what you call 'budget'! That term means quite different things to different people depending on their circumstances!
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Old 20th July 2006, 08:14 PM   #5
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Default Morel drivers, car audio

if typically Morel, then they are excellent and the crossovers are quite good as well. The biggest problem is making sure you have complete parameters.
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Old 21st July 2006, 10:15 AM   #6
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I'm liking the look of the Waveguide TMM, and the Vifa XG18/ Seas 27tdfc MTM from the Zaph webpage, the cost of conponents is about the top of my budget, any other suggestions guys otherwise I may try one of those.


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Old 21st July 2006, 03:26 PM   #7
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I think what we mean when we say "budget is in the eye of the beholder" is that you name a real dollar figure.

For example, when I build a budget system, I mean to spend about $200-300 USD on components.

When someone else means to build a budget system, he spends $1-2K USD.

Still a third person might mean to spend $30-40 USD.

All are legitimate, and all can result in fine sound reproduction, given the quid pro quo, sine qua non, et. al., usw, usw...

If you name a dollar figure, people here can direct you where you want to go.

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Old 21st July 2006, 09:45 PM   #8
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Around $200 US for drivers and crossover components is about my budget with a max of about $300 US. I'm too concerned about cabinet costs as it doesnt have to look that good along as they are perform I don't really care what they look like.

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Old 21st July 2006, 10:08 PM   #9
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Default check this design out

at Rabbitz site

http://www.rzaudio.com/rz52/Floorstander.htm

simple design, not expensive,
& easy to get good results
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