ultimate budget speaker

[inrank]

just wondering if there was a floorstanding speaker design, that is relativly cheap, relatively compact, but with pants wetting dynamics and imaging....

am i asking too much?



(can i use my FR125S as a part of it?)

i listen to blues, country, indie, classic rock and easy listening.

 

[sdclc126]

You'll need to be more specific -

How cheap? What is your budget?

What sort of room size do you have?

Will you want to include a subwoofer?

What sort of dimensions did you have in mind for the speakers?

 

[inrank]

ok,

cheap as in £50 each for the drivers.

my room is 9"x15" but i will be getting a bigger room next year.

i have a sub, so i only need a F3 of around 50-55Hz.

no bigger than 3ft tall and either (thin and deep) or (wide and thin).

i would like to use my FR125S if i can as i allready have 2, say for the midrange.

 

[inrank]

anyone?

 

[DocLorren]

Interesting, 'ultimate and budget' together.
Do you mean the cheapest decent speaker or the best speaker on what you (or anyone else) would call a budget?
Let's say for the money you propose I'd suggest the Cyburg Needle, Fe126 Buschhorn or the Lancetta (bit tall I agree).

 

[inrank]

well i just want the best speaker that i can make with the requirements with my budget.

i forgot to say that i would like a 2 or 3 way design, with a woofer to take over the FR125S at around 200-300Hz and mabye a tweeter for 15KHz and above.

mabye like this- http://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/index_en.htm?/hifi/ct211_en.htm

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[Holger Barske]

If you want the best speaker for your money, take your bucks and buy one good driver. 2 or 3 way's definitely not recommended here.

 

[adason]

i would definitely go 2 way, single speaker will never achieve the bass you want
try ProAc Response 2.5 clone

 

[sreten]

http://www.planet10-hifi.com/css.html

As you have FR125Ss presumably one of the designs is the way to go.

/sreten.

 

[inrank]

yeah, but they all use the Fr125s as a full range, i want to add a bigger woofer to take the strain of them.
I like the Raw Acoustics ones, but i want to design my own and i can not afford an extremis, unless there is not a good alternative thats cheaper, and i will save up.

 

[tinitus]

You say you "want to take the strain of the FR125s"

Go buy some more FR125s, and they will have to move less

 

[inrank]

i love the idea of 4 either side which would look cool, but i cant afford £300 for 6, i have read a lot of the Bipole designs but i dont have enough room behind for that, so what about just two firing front both running full range?

although it would be sealed, from the calculations on WinISD, i think i want a little more bass, F3 around the 55-60Hz

 

[tinitus]

You will have to make frontbaffle so that the distance from both drivers to your ears in your listening position is exactly the same

 

[tinitus]

"more bass", you say, OK!
Buy four WR125, they cost less - and then make a simple two way with crossoverpoint between WR and FR somewhere between 300 and 800 hz

 

[inrank]

sounds good, but buying 8 WR125S's is only £30 cheaper than 6 FR125S's

 

[tinitus]

NO, I mean 2 x WR125 pr side for bass and 1 x FR125 for midrange and up

 

[inrank]

ah ok, cool

so shall i go sealed, or is there another type that is siutible.

 

[tinitus]

Well, there is a bipole minionken on planet10 made for two FR125

It should work with both drivers on front

There are other bipoles shown, where you can get an idea about cabinetsize fore two drivers

Personally I might try with a big widebaffled closed box

http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-CSS.html

 

[adason]

or you can try basszilla-like speaker, fullrange on open baffle, woofer in the box
i made a few myself with various driver combinations, highly recommended

http://www.blackdahlia.com/html/tip_45.html

 

[sreten]

Hi,

another option is to go 0.5 way with a FR125S+WR125S(0.5) per side.

One advantage of bipoles is they do not have a baffle step in the response.

If you put both drivers on the front it needs to be a 0.5 way for Baffle Step Compensation.

/sreten.