Any one else agree with Zaph? Also I'm building computer speakers.

[Jimmy154]

I don't have a lot of audio experience, I like to mention.

I never heard anyone say the things so rationally and clearly and make sense like this man in audio http://www.zaphaudio.com/aboutme.html I also like his link http://www.theaudiocritic.com/downloads/article_1.pdf

Although I must say I think I like fullrange speakers not only cause they have no cross-overs, but mostly because they have no crossovers

Anyway, I want to build some computer speakers. I guess my main question is should I go with fullrange or 2-way, I have a sub it play from 100 Hz down. F3 is at 100 Hz and it has a 24 db/octive slope.

I like the Aurasound NS3-194-8E cause it's cheap and no x-over. Maybe I can put 2 in each speaker? But it won't match my sub too well. I'm pretty close to the speakers about .8 meters, so I was thinking having the highs and mids come form one or two points (both points being "fullrange" in the case of two fullranges in a speaker) might be real important at this distance.

If I can get away with it though, I'ld maybe like to build 2-way using a Dayton RS-150 or RS-125. I dont know which would be better. I'm thinking I can get the RS-125 in a smaller narrower box and I can get the middle of the driver closer to my tweeter. The tweeter would be a DAYTON DC28FS-8, I guess Does this sound good? Which option is better or neither are good ?

[angsuman]

Well what is your budget. A crossover isn't neccessarily a bad thing but it can be daunting. For computer speakers a fullrange driver is fine because ussually it is directly aimed at your head.

If your going to go 2-way the DAYTON DC28FS-8 measures quite poorly and there are better tweeters out there. The center to center driver spacing is dependent on the crossover frequency. As long as your drivers' centers are below the distance of the wavelength of the crossover frequency you'd have no ill effects. Basically the closer the tweeter and woofer the better. For example the wavelength of 5khz is 2.7in. If you were going to crossover this high aslong as the center of your tweeter, to the center of your woofer's distance is less than this its fine. Although that is a rather high frequency to cross over. If you want small computer speakers that sound great those tiny audax monitors on zaph audio are great. Since you are new you'd probably want to start off with a proven design. The dayton RS woofers you mentioned are fine drivers and there probably are some designs posted out there.

[soongsc]

There are some things I agree with and some I don't. Lots of technology makes sense, it's how much effort put into realizing it and how much effort is put into sales that gives people different impressions, thus taking a stand regardless of the actual merits of the implementation.

For desktop computer speakers, I would go with full range simply because one is sitting within the distance of normal driver measurement range. So you will get enough sound pressure with very small power.

[sreten]

http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker20a.html
http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker20b.html

Seems to me to be perfect for the job in question.
Just use a more conventional cabinet.

The small amount of BSC used makes them ideal for nearfield listening.
If actively filtered at 100Hz, the power handling of 64W should
be enough for near field listening, max combined SPL = 110dB.
(80dB/W per speaker = 104dB/64W per speaker)

/sreten.

[Jimmy154]

Hmm . . . if I used the Aura NS3-193, I would not use a tweeter. And if I used the Aura NS3-193, I would use the Aura NS3-194 Although I think it doesn't go as low, but has better sensativity. I don't like tweeters or high pitch noise/music really. It doesn't sound as real, but I won't miss the sound, trust me It's just that they don't go as low as I'd like. Can I use 2 NS3-194 in an enclosure or is this not a good idea? Also would the Dayton RS-125 or 150 be better as a mid in a two-way, seeing how close it is to my head and how far apart the woofer and tweeter would be?



Sreten, I just built a sub using that amp you helped me with 2 + years ago Design that has 24 db/octive roll-off at 100 Hz And guess what? It has a huge peak at 30 Hz I'm better at working with electronics now, so I think I can get around this, eventually. Probably in another 2 years

Oh I should post some pics! I like pics, plus you guys can laugh at my setup/system

I don't know if I should post the pics here so here's the links to the pics of my sub (the first one) and my speakers. I just have a 4.7 uF cap on the tweeter and a .9 mH 12 gauge inductor on the woofer. I like the open baffle sound.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1198.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1199.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1200.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1201.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1202.jpg

You guys like my desk?

[el`Ol]

I find that these are much too unknown:
http://www.altecpro.com/pdfs/E5464_R06_CF404_DS.pdf

[Jimmy154]

Originally posted by el`Ol
I find that these are much too unknown:
http://www.altecpro.com/pdfs/E5464_R06_CF404_DS.pdf

Do you use them? Do they sound good? Does any one use them for home audio?

[Cal Weldon]

Originally posted by Jimmy154
You guys like my desk?

Yes it matches the speakers quite nicely.

[Jimmy154]

Originally posted by Cal Weldon


Yes it matches the speakers quite nicely.

I'm glad some one noticed the time and effort I put into aesthetics.

[el`Ol]

Originally posted by Jimmy154


Do you use them? Do they sound good? Does any one use them for home audio?

Spectrumaudio sells them. I have currently no need for high quality computer speakers, but as far as I know there is no other fullranger with that Vas and T-Amp compatible sensitivity.