New speaker processors from BBE – DS24, DS26 and DS48

JonFo · 29th March 2006, 10:08 AM

Since many of us are into speaker processor and active x-overs, here’s a new kid on the block that has not been commented on yet:
http://www.bbesound.com/products/LMS/index.asp

BBE introduced a suite of Loudspeaker processors that seem to compete very favorably (in specs) with the basics the Driverack series, but at a much, much lower price point. Seems to have most of what the BEH DCX delivers as well.
With RS-232 computer control and programming, it seems eminently usable as well.

The DS26 has a street price of $350, which I see as a sweet spot for what many of us are looking for.

Has anyone tried one of these?

I have project coming up (a multiway Center speaker) that I plan to apply a 1 in - 4 out x-over / EQ to.

The one question in my mind is phase management. I’m sure they handle +/-, but can they adjust in 1 degree angles like the DR 260 can?

No docs on the site yet and not formal reviews that I can find on the net.

DIY_newbie · 29th March 2006, 02:42 PM

It really sucks that we can't get any DCXs right now, but this is not an equivilant system

The DCX uses 24/96Khz AD and DA conversions, the D26 uses 24/48khz
The DCX has an auto align function that measures delay between speakers and corrects, the D26 has the abillity to add delay but not automatically measure it..

The D26 uses 32bit internal processing, the DCX doesn't mention what the internal precision is ... I remember reading somewhere it was 48 bits, but I can't find it now.. Does anyone know for sure what the internal precision is?? If its only 24 bits, I might have to listen to one of these D26s...

--Chris

fredos · 19th October 2007, 01:56 PM

Just got a DS48. I already own Driverack PA and BSS minidrive 336. Software seem exactly the same as BSS, but with more function to handle the extra output. At first try, it sound disgusting. Like an unmodified Driverack...But with replacement of the LM358 opamp in the input and outputh path with SG TL072, WOW! Sound really close to the BSS. Limiter are precise and transparent, crossover seem honnest, and phase alignment work as the BSS. With modification, really great unit for the price. 10 time better than the DBX, bith less than the BSS...

Fredos

Lindell · 20th October 2007, 05:22 PM

This one is dirt cheap to http://www.altoproaudio.com/html/details.php?ID=159&

bonjonno · 13th February 2008, 08:36 PM

hey fredos
I'm thinking of picking up a bbe DS26. I noticed you replaced the opamps in yours, but can't find a schematic. How many are there and is it simply a matter of pulling the old ones out of a socket and plugging in the new?

Thanks, Jon

JoMoCo · 25th March 2009, 07:58 PM

Hello, anybody using and or modifing for improvement these or has everyone just gone the Behringer way?

slr 5000 · 25th March 2009, 10:05 PM

hi all
fredos
im very interested in the mods you have done on your driverack
i have the 260 series and am looking to improve the sound

regards sheafer

JandG · 29th December 2009, 01:05 PM

Anyone still useing the BBE ds48 or 24 etc..? I am thinking to get one as they are to be had for under 300.00 for the 48.. or just get the behringer..? Seems on pro circles the BBE at least is supposed good sonics & very quiet..?
Joe

29th March 2006, 10:08 AM	#1
JonFo diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Big Canoe, GA	New speaker processors from BBE – DS24, DS26 and DS48 Since many of us are into speaker processor and active x-overs, here’s a new kid on the block that has not been commented on yet: http://www.bbesound.com/products/LMS/index.asp BBE introduced a suite of Loudspeaker processors that seem to compete very favorably (in specs) with the basics the Driverack series, but at a much, much lower price point. Seems to have most of what the BEH DCX delivers as well. With RS-232 computer control and programming, it seems eminently usable as well. The DS26 has a street price of $350, which I see as a sweet spot for what many of us are looking for. Has anyone tried one of these? I have project coming up (a multiway Center speaker) that I plan to apply a 1 in - 4 out x-over / EQ to. The one question in my mind is phase management. I’m sure they handle +/-, but can they adjust in 1 degree angles like the DR 260 can? No docs on the site yet and not formal reviews that I can find on the net. __________________ Jonathan

25th March 2009, 07:58 PM	#6
JoMoCo diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	BBE DS24 DS26 DS48 Hello, anybody using and or modifing for improvement these or has everyone just gone the Behringer way?

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29th March 2006, 02:42 PM	#2
DIY_newbie diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX	It really sucks that we can't get any DCXs right now, but this is not an equivilant system The DCX uses 24/96Khz AD and DA conversions, the D26 uses 24/48khz The DCX has an auto align function that measures delay between speakers and corrects, the D26 has the abillity to add delay but not automatically measure it.. The D26 uses 32bit internal processing, the DCX doesn't mention what the internal precision is ... I remember reading somewhere it was 48 bits, but I can't find it now.. Does anyone know for sure what the internal precision is?? If its only 24 bits, I might have to listen to one of these D26s... --Chris

19th October 2007, 01:56 PM	#3
fredos diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Quebec	Just got a DS48. I already own Driverack PA and BSS minidrive 336. Software seem exactly the same as BSS, but with more function to handle the extra output. At first try, it sound disgusting. Like an unmodified Driverack...But with replacement of the LM358 opamp in the input and outputh path with SG TL072, WOW! Sound really close to the BSS. Limiter are precise and transparent, crossover seem honnest, and phase alignment work as the BSS. With modification, really great unit for the price. 10 time better than the DBX, bith less than the BSS... Fredos

20th October 2007, 05:22 PM	#4
Lindell diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Planet Earth	This one is dirt cheap to http://www.altoproaudio.com/html/details.php?ID=159&

13th February 2008, 08:36 PM	#5
bonjonno diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rapid City	hey fredos I'm thinking of picking up a bbe DS26. I noticed you replaced the opamps in yours, but can't find a schematic. How many are there and is it simply a matter of pulling the old ones out of a socket and plugging in the new? Thanks, Jon

25th March 2009, 10:05 PM	#7
slr 5000 diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: melbourne	hi all fredos im very interested in the mods you have done on your driverack i have the 260 series and am looking to improve the sound regards sheafer

29th December 2009, 01:05 PM	#8
JandG diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Washington State	Anyone still useing the BBE ds48 or 24 etc..? I am thinking to get one as they are to be had for under 300.00 for the 48.. or just get the behringer..? Seems on pro circles the BBE at least is supposed good sonics & very quiet..? Joe

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