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Old 13th March 2006, 08:09 PM   #1
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Default Why this tweeter phase not inverted?

I am trying to rework the original Eros MKI xover version:
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The original xover is too bright in my opinion.

Usually in 2 order, the tweeter's polarity is inverted but in this xover, it is not. Could someone explain why?

I try to put a 1ohm resistor in series with the tweeter xover but it attenuates the midrange too much.

I did some quick spice simulation and the simulation show the phases are inverted at the point of xover.

I am trying to do two things: move the xover freq. to around 2Khz and at the same time add a some attenuation to the tweeter.
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It's doubtful that the total acoustic slope is second order (drivers are rarely flat near crossover). It is also doubtful that the two drivers have the same zero-delay plane. So the simple assumption that they should be wired out of phase may not be correct.
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I try to put a 1ohm resistor in series with the tweeter xover but it attenuates the midrange too much.
Then try putting an RC across the tweeter. Maybe start with 1uF and R=same as tweeters DC resistance.

This will make the crossover C more effective at the higher frequencies, (not that it has much effect there), and it will also present a more balanced load to your amp which may tame a harsh top end.

Play with these values, try this first.

You cannot simulate a crossover in spice without considering the load your speaker presents. It is not a resistor, it is a complex load (not complicated :- reactive). Youll need to do two electrical and two acoustic measurements per driver, and use a crossover sim.
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What about front baffle
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Old 14th March 2006, 12:12 AM   #5
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What about front baffle
Absolutely. If you are using a crossover sim, you'll already be measuring the drivers magnitude and phase in situ though.
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What about front baffle

What about it?
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