What to do with these?

D1GGY · 7th March 2006, 11:00 PM

I have in my posession the following drivers which I would like to incorporate into my next project and am after some recomendations as to what to do with them......clean answers only please!

2 off SS 9500 tweeters
2 off Vifa P13
2 off Seas H571

I guess I will use the tweeters

but am wondering what to pair them with, and information on enclosure and crossover designs based on that choice,

I have used the drivers in a couple of home designs based on winISD playing and I have been left a little dissappointed in the results I must say, mainly due to limited crossover design I expect. This has got to the point that at the moment I think my "budget" mission m71's sound best, which can not be right for the quality of the drivers used in the diy designs.

looking for the someone to show me the light , hoping that someone can help me out,

many thanks,

Mark

pinkmouse · 7th March 2006, 11:07 PM

Well, you've made the major step, realising you can't just throw good drivers in a box and expect the results to sound good.

The first thing I would do is get some testing SW, a measurement mic, and actually measure the parameters and frequency response of your drivers. That will give you a solid base on to which you can start a new design with confidence.

D1GGY · 8th March 2006, 02:42 AM

Great thanks for your input, after a quick search i have found speaker workshop.

I had not considered doing all design work myself, i had expected a link or reference to a design, a whole new perspective.

I will see how I get on, is SW Ok to use for this sort of thing or is there a "prefered" package for this sort of thing?

thanks
M

pinkmouse · 8th March 2006, 02:49 AM

Speaker Workshop is a little clunky to use, but does everything you need. If you do a search, you will find a link to Jay Butterman's manual, required reading as the documentation that comes with the package is a little "limited".

D1GGY · 8th March 2006, 03:25 AM

Thanks for the reply, found the user guide, much better.

you say sw is a little clunky, well if i'm going to invest my time and effot into this i may as well go the whole way, is there a better solution and if so what?

Regards
M

PeteMcK · 8th March 2006, 04:23 AM

The H571's look to be good for an EBS alignment in a 30.5 L box tuned to 35Hz, that'll get them down to 40Hz at about -4dB down.

D1GGY · 8th March 2006, 04:47 AM

PeteMcK
Excuse my ignorance EBS?

Mark

Lionel · 8th March 2006, 06:39 AM

This :

Ariel speakers

Vikash · 8th March 2006, 09:39 AM

Speaker Workshop is accurate, powerful and free. The clunkyness PM referred to is related to the learning curve and its intuitivness. If you get past those (hence the manual, and also check out Claudio Negro's website) then it is everything you'll need.

sreten · 8th March 2006, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by D1GGY
PeteMcK
Excuse my ignorance EBS?
Mark

EBS = extended bass shelf (alignment)

/sreten.

7th March 2006, 11:00 PM	#1
D1GGY diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wellington, NZ	What to do with these? I have in my posession the following drivers which I would like to incorporate into my next project and am after some recomendations as to what to do with them......clean answers only please! 2 off SS 9500 tweeters 2 off Vifa P13 2 off Seas H571 I guess I will use the tweeters but am wondering what to pair them with, and information on enclosure and crossover designs based on that choice, I have used the drivers in a couple of home designs based on winISD playing and I have been left a little dissappointed in the results I must say, mainly due to limited crossover design I expect. This has got to the point that at the moment I think my "budget" mission m71's sound best, which can not be right for the quality of the drivers used in the diy designs. looking for the someone to show me the light , hoping that someone can help me out, many thanks, Mark

7th March 2006, 11:07 PM	#2
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	Well, you've made the major step, realising you can't just throw good drivers in a box and expect the results to sound good. The first thing I would do is get some testing SW, a measurement mic, and actually measure the parameters and frequency response of your drivers. That will give you a solid base on to which you can start a new design with confidence. __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

8th March 2006, 02:49 AM	#4
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chatham, England	Speaker Workshop is a little clunky to use, but does everything you need. If you do a search, you will find a link to Jay Butterman's manual, required reading as the documentation that comes with the package is a little "limited". __________________ Al I conceive of nothing, in religion, science or philosophy, that is more than the proper thing to wear, for a while. Charles Fort

8th March 2006, 09:39 AM	#9
Vikash diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK	Speaker Workshop is accurate, powerful and free. The clunkyness PM referred to is related to the learning curve and its intuitivness. If you get past those (hence the manual, and also check out Claudio Negro's website) then it is everything you'll need. __________________ "The human mind is so constituted that it colours with its own previous conceptions any new notion that presents itself for acceptance." - J. Wilhelm. (But I still think mine sounds better than yours.)

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8th March 2006, 02:42 AM	#3
D1GGY diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wellington, NZ	Great thanks for your input, after a quick search i have found speaker workshop. I had not considered doing all design work myself, i had expected a link or reference to a design, a whole new perspective. I will see how I get on, is SW Ok to use for this sort of thing or is there a "prefered" package for this sort of thing? thanks M

8th March 2006, 03:25 AM	#5
D1GGY diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wellington, NZ	Thanks for the reply, found the user guide, much better. you say sw is a little clunky, well if i'm going to invest my time and effot into this i may as well go the whole way, is there a better solution and if so what? Regards M

8th March 2006, 04:23 AM	#6
PeteMcK diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney	The H571's look to be good for an EBS alignment in a 30.5 L box tuned to 35Hz, that'll get them down to 40Hz at about -4dB down.

8th March 2006, 04:47 AM	#7
D1GGY diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wellington, NZ	PeteMcK Excuse my ignorance EBS? Mark

8th March 2006, 06:39 AM	#8
Lionel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Saint Etienne	This : Ariel speakers

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