what use for internal driver wiring?

goodspeaker · 2nd March 2006, 07:04 AM

What I can use for internal driver wiring?
From crossover to driver.
I head that for tweeter and woofer would be different cable.
I head that LEATZ(maybe wrong spelling) cable is special for internal wiring. But where to buy the one?
In internet I fond only silvered military cable, what can suit for DIY
here
http://stores.ebay.com/Johns-Silver-...dZ2QQpZ2QQtZkm
What is your opinion is it OK for my purpose?

Geek · 2nd March 2006, 07:37 AM

You mean Litz wire? That stuff is "ouch", unless you get it surplus

You didn't mention power level, but 16-18GA regular speaker wire is what I use for < 100W.

Scottmoose · 2nd March 2006, 10:42 AM

Silver in contact with Teflon is a very bad idea. You get measurable ringing; it's the worst combination I know of in terms of triboelectric distortion. That's why it's almost never used for microphone cables, and it's also probably where the commonly reported 'silver sheen' comes from. Its resistance is lower than copper, but only by a tiny amount -it won't make a whole lot of difference unless you've got 1/2 mile runs or so.

A popular soulution is to use a cable with a large cross-section for the bass drivers, and a different one with a large surface area for the HF). I doubt it'd make a great deal of difference, but give it a try. Just don't waste your money on high-priced stuff; the electrons don't care one way or the other how much you paid for it.

Best
Scott

Glowbug · 2nd March 2006, 10:46 AM

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDe...rodID=KAR16BLS

Gmorris · 2nd March 2006, 12:51 PM

http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp...&search=0&off=

goodspeaker · 2nd March 2006, 03:48 PM

Both links are usual speaker wire from amplifier to speaker.
But I think for inner speaker wiring I need to use nor usual speaker cable, but some kind of special cable. Maybe I wrong.
I was surprised when I fond that driver and speaker builder
http://www.aurumcantus.com/ (just check hifi loudspeaker link Supreme) uses for internal speaker wiring usual speaker cable Supra, actually I’m distributer of Supra in Ukraine so I have a lot of Supra cables on stock.
Is it good idea to use usual speaker wire for internal speaker wiring?

What are you use for internal speaker wiring? Maybe Litz?

Gmorris · 2nd March 2006, 04:22 PM

I would use what you have in stock although I believe some feel that tinned copper is not recommended. I don't think that higher powered signals, such as those powering a speaker, will be affected much by cable over the short distance in a speaker box.
However I'm sure some will disagree.

The canare cable I linked to above has four conductors which, when hooked up in "quad" configuration, lowers inductance but also raises capacitance a bit.

http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/star.html

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...les/cables.htm

2nd March 2006, 07:04 AM	#1
goodspeaker diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ukraine Kiev	what use for internal driver wiring? What I can use for internal driver wiring? From crossover to driver. I head that for tweeter and woofer would be different cable. I head that LEATZ(maybe wrong spelling) cable is special for internal wiring. But where to buy the one? In internet I fond only silvered military cable, what can suit for DIY here http://stores.ebay.com/Johns-Silver-...dZ2QQpZ2QQtZkm What is your opinion is it OK for my purpose? __________________ --

2nd March 2006, 10:46 AM	#4
Glowbug diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hillsborough, NC/McLean, VA	http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDe...rodID=KAR16BLS __________________ Jim J.

2nd March 2006, 03:48 PM	#6
goodspeaker diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ukraine Kiev	Both links are usual speaker wire from amplifier to speaker. But I think for inner speaker wiring I need to use nor usual speaker cable, but some kind of special cable. Maybe I wrong. I was surprised when I fond that driver and speaker builder http://www.aurumcantus.com/ (just check hifi loudspeaker link Supreme) uses for internal speaker wiring usual speaker cable Supra, actually I’m distributer of Supra in Ukraine so I have a lot of Supra cables on stock. Is it good idea to use usual speaker wire for internal speaker wiring? What are you use for internal speaker wiring? Maybe Litz? __________________ --

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2nd March 2006, 07:37 AM	#2
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	You mean Litz wire? That stuff is "ouch", unless you get it surplus You didn't mention power level, but 16-18GA regular speaker wire is what I use for < 100W.

2nd March 2006, 10:42 AM	#3
Scottmoose diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK	Silver in contact with Teflon is a very bad idea. You get measurable ringing; it's the worst combination I know of in terms of triboelectric distortion. That's why it's almost never used for microphone cables, and it's also probably where the commonly reported 'silver sheen' comes from. Its resistance is lower than copper, but only by a tiny amount -it won't make a whole lot of difference unless you've got 1/2 mile runs or so. A popular soulution is to use a cable with a large cross-section for the bass drivers, and a different one with a large surface area for the HF). I doubt it'd make a great deal of difference, but give it a try. Just don't waste your money on high-priced stuff; the electrons don't care one way or the other how much you paid for it. Best Scott

2nd March 2006, 12:51 PM	#5
Gmorris diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MusicCity	http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp...&search=0&off=

2nd March 2006, 04:22 PM	#7
Gmorris diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MusicCity	I would use what you have in stock although I believe some feel that tinned copper is not recommended. I don't think that higher powered signals, such as those powering a speaker, will be affected much by cable over the short distance in a speaker box. However I'm sure some will disagree. The canare cable I linked to above has four conductors which, when hooked up in "quad" configuration, lowers inductance but also raises capacitance a bit. http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/star.html http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...les/cables.htm

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