loudspeaker measuring/design software

Jean · 23rd October 2002, 07:52 AM

Hello,

I have been thinking about buying speaker measuring software so I can improve my diy speakers. I tried Speaker Workshop and I really don't like its interface. Any LSPCad or SoundEasy users here ?

Looking for a well documented package that will work with w2k pro machine, I have M-Audio audiophile 24/96 card that I would like to use. I also would like some input on good MICs for this job.

I am not looking at the BEST software out there, just something not expensive to get the job done. I just want to be able to measure the drivers in my cabinets, run a couple simulations, and design a xo.

I am pretty happy with the current xo, but knowing that it could probably sound better is bugging me

So I must attempt to improve it.

jmpsmash · 26th October 2002, 08:28 AM

i am interested in it too. appreciate it if anyone can give some pointers..

ergo · 26th October 2002, 09:16 AM

I'm the user of LSP Cad Std and for the price I would say it's an exellent value. I use JustMLS for measuring and it also gives very good result indeed.

Here's a picture of two craphs, gray is measured response after completing the crossover and black is simulated (drivers + cross)response of LSPCad using previosly measured data of drivers imported to LSPCad.

Vg · 29th October 2002, 02:15 PM

ergo, what mic are you using, and how much does it cost? This seems interesting...

Also, where do you measure your drivers to get correct results?

Viktor.

stefan · 29th October 2002, 03:28 PM

Hi, guis!
Did you try this:
http://www.speakerworkshop.com/?

It's a little bit complicated to set-up for the first time, but after is wonderfull!

f4ier · 29th October 2002, 09:59 PM

If I wanted to buy speaker software now, it would have to be SoundEasy. The new features are just too cool to pass up.

But I would wait for LspCAD 6 to be released before I decide. And there's no way of telling what cool new features SoundEasy will have by the time LspCAD 6 is released... then there's winLEAP

Rarkov · 29th October 2002, 10:25 PM

I have been waiting out to afford a Pro version of LSPCad cause it has the crossover emulator...Then I approched Mark Zacherman(?) who wrote speaker workshop. He is looking into adding this feature. I've just been to SE's website....and it says they have it too!

SE costs about £140 and is certainly on my shopping list this month...unless anyone has anything negative to say about it?

Thanks
Gaz

planet10 · 30th October 2002, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rarkov
SE costs about £140 and is certainly on my shopping list this month...unless anyone has anything negative to say about it?

It doesn't run well on my Mac?

Seriously there is a growing amount of software for doing speaker testing, modeling, emulation, etc. I just wish more of it ran on the Mac. But it will come. For now i'll just have to live with Mac-the-Scope & MacSpeakers & MacSpeakerz (and a copy of Virtual PC)

dave

ergo · 30th October 2002, 07:33 AM

Viktor,

I'm using EMM-8 calibrated mic from
http://www.ibf-akustik.de/

It's affordable and comes with calibration file that is easily useable in JustMLS.

The cal file shows a stady rise from 0dB@1.5k to +1.5dB @ 20k so the mis would be useable even without cal info.

I'm mostly doing the measurements 70-80cm from front plate on tweeter axis...

Ergo

Phil O.son · 30th October 2002, 04:07 PM

I just went through this exercise and decided on Soundeasy. In fact my order should arrive within the hour via UPS. I have been playing with Speaker Workshop as well but SE seems much more comprehensive.

That fact that I am building a WMTMW system and it is directly handled in SE is a real plus. SW is great but there are too many limitations that SE just doesn't have.

I already built a Walin Jig and a mic preamp for my calibrated mic, (which I bought with LAUD some years ago), so I can hit the ground running.

SE has everything from complete system simulation, box design, crossover design, radiation patterns, up through room placement optimization in non-rectangular rooms.

I'm really excited about getting started today and since I am currently unemployed, I'll have plenty of time on my hands to use it!

Phil

23rd October 2002, 07:52 AM	#1
Jean diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA	loudspeaker measuring/design software Hello, I have been thinking about buying speaker measuring software so I can improve my diy speakers. I tried Speaker Workshop and I really don't like its interface. Any LSPCad or SoundEasy users here ? Looking for a well documented package that will work with w2k pro machine, I have M-Audio audiophile 24/96 card that I would like to use. I also would like some input on good MICs for this job. I am not looking at the BEST software out there, just something not expensive to get the job done. I just want to be able to measure the drivers in my cabinets, run a couple simulations, and design a xo. I am pretty happy with the current xo, but knowing that it could probably sound better is bugging me So I must attempt to improve it.

29th October 2002, 09:59 PM	#6
f4ier diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sydney	If I wanted to buy speaker software now, it would have to be SoundEasy. The new features are just too cool to pass up. But I would wait for LspCAD 6 to be released before I decide. And there's no way of telling what cool new features SoundEasy will have by the time LspCAD 6 is released... then there's winLEAP __________________ Crossover/Subwoofer Simulator

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26th October 2002, 08:28 AM	#2
jmpsmash diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, US	i am interested in it too. appreciate it if anyone can give some pointers..

29th October 2002, 02:15 PM	#4
Vg diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	ergo, what mic are you using, and how much does it cost? This seems interesting... Also, where do you measure your drivers to get correct results? Viktor.

29th October 2002, 03:28 PM	#5
stefan diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bulgaria	Hi, guis! Did you try this: http://www.speakerworkshop.com/? It's a little bit complicated to set-up for the first time, but after is wonderfull!

29th October 2002, 10:25 PM	#7
Rarkov diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North East, UK	I have been waiting out to afford a Pro version of LSPCad cause it has the crossover emulator...Then I approched Mark Zacherman(?) who wrote speaker workshop. He is looking into adding this feature. I've just been to SE's website....and it says they have it too! SE costs about £140 and is certainly on my shopping list this month...unless anyone has anything negative to say about it? Thanks Gaz

30th October 2002, 07:33 AM	#9
ergo diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tallinn, Estonia	Viktor, I'm using EMM-8 calibrated mic from http://www.ibf-akustik.de/ It's affordable and comes with calibration file that is easily useable in JustMLS. The cal file shows a stady rise from 0dB@1.5k to +1.5dB @ 20k so the mis would be useable even without cal info. I'm mostly doing the measurements 70-80cm from front plate on tweeter axis... Ergo

30th October 2002, 04:07 PM	#10
Phil O.son diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kenwood	I just went through this exercise and decided on Soundeasy. In fact my order should arrive within the hour via UPS. I have been playing with Speaker Workshop as well but SE seems much more comprehensive. That fact that I am building a WMTMW system and it is directly handled in SE is a real plus. SW is great but there are too many limitations that SE just doesn't have. I already built a Walin Jig and a mic preamp for my calibrated mic, (which I bought with LAUD some years ago), so I can hit the ground running. SE has everything from complete system simulation, box design, crossover design, radiation patterns, up through room placement optimization in non-rectangular rooms. I'm really excited about getting started today and since I am currently unemployed, I'll have plenty of time on my hands to use it! Phil

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