outboard xover - enclosed or not?

jmpsmash · 22nd October 2002, 01:08 AM

i am planning to pull the xover out of the speaker box. currently, they are located at the bottom of the bass cabinet. there are no space elsewhere. however, the terminals are near the top of the whole speaker. as a result, the cables has to run from terminal high up, down to the bottom, and then back up to the drivers. i think that's probably less efficient.

anyway, my question is then, if i do pull them out, and they are pretty big. should i build a box and put them in there? i will have to raise this box up to the level of the terminals with a pair of speaker stand. if there is no sonic advantage, i may just leave them bare..

Peter Daniel · 22nd October 2002, 01:13 AM

Leaving them bare, might be actually a sonic advantage.

FrankDIY · 22nd October 2002, 02:48 AM

The network will also run cooler, another advantage.

jmpsmash · 22nd October 2002, 03:18 AM

ah... thanks. i will leave them bare then.

since the entry point into the speaker is so high, i am thinking of getting a cheapo 30" speaker stand, mount a wooden board on top, and have the xover mounted on that.... anyone know of a good source for cheap speaker stand? IKEA?

Bill Fitzpatrick · 22nd October 2002, 03:24 AM

Regardless of what a lot of people may want to believe, there is no point in removing the crossover to the outside of the enclosure.

Surely you have more important things to do?

PeteMcK · 22nd October 2002, 03:33 AM

Bill, I agree.
I moved my xovers to the outside of the boxes 'cause I thought I might get around to tweaking them...........I never have, and it's one more thing to be careful of when moving the cabs, one more thing for the kids to play with when you're not looking....
cheers,
Pete McK

FrankDIY · 22nd October 2002, 11:44 AM

I think we all agree that this is not "user-friendly", but the question was...

Quote:

my question is then, if i do pull them out, and they are pretty big. should i build a box and put them in there? i will have to raise this box up to the level of the terminals with a pair of speaker stand. if there is no sonic advantage, i may just leave them bare..

jmpsmash · 22nd October 2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Fitzpatrick
Regardless of what a lot of people may want to believe, there is no point in removing the crossover to the outside of the enclosure.

Surely you have more important things to do?

Bill, would you care to elaborate?

jmpsmash · 22nd October 2002, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PeteMcK
Bill, I agree.
I moved my xovers to the outside of the boxes 'cause I thought I might get around to tweaking them...........I never have, and it's one more thing to be careful of when moving the cabs, one more thing for the kids to play with when you're not looking....
cheers,
Pete McK

more than a few times i have found myself having to tilt over my 150lb speakers, open up the bottom, unscrew the xovers and mod them. and i just ordered some new inductors so i think i'll have to do it again tonight. the moving and tilting and removing cones and hardfloor protector is a tedious process. and more than once i have unfortunately dug little holes onto the recently finished floor...

Bill Fitzpatrick · 22nd October 2002, 09:59 PM

jmpsmash:

Maybe I should rephrase.

Aside from the convenience of easy tweaking, crossovers inside the box work just as well as those outside. Heat is not a problem.

As far a more important things to do, I retract that statement.

22nd October 2002, 01:08 AM	#1
jmpsmash diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, US	outboard xover - enclosed or not? i am planning to pull the xover out of the speaker box. currently, they are located at the bottom of the bass cabinet. there are no space elsewhere. however, the terminals are near the top of the whole speaker. as a result, the cables has to run from terminal high up, down to the bottom, and then back up to the drivers. i think that's probably less efficient. anyway, my question is then, if i do pull them out, and they are pretty big. should i build a box and put them in there? i will have to raise this box up to the level of the terminals with a pair of speaker stand. if there is no sonic advantage, i may just leave them bare..

22nd October 2002, 01:13 AM	#2
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	Leaving them bare, might be actually a sonic advantage. __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

22nd October 2002, 02:48 AM	#3
FrankDIY diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Montreal	The network will also run cooler, another advantage. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited; imagination encircles the world. Albert Einstein FrankDIY's Audio Corner

22nd October 2002, 03:24 AM	#5
Bill Fitzpatrick diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eugene, OR	Regardless of what a lot of people may want to believe, there is no point in removing the crossover to the outside of the enclosure. Surely you have more important things to do? __________________ Bill Fitzpatrick, the grumpiest person on the face of the planet. We may run out of food, we may run out of energy, we may run out of breathable air but we'll never run out of idiots. So, eat the idiots, burn their bones and be grateful for less hot air. ________________ Not of the body and certainly out of my mind. Pass the mugwump ji . . er . . juice. Nikko Pre-Amp, GAS Son, GAS Grandson, Mirage Electronic Crossover, Marantz CD63SE, Satellites and 2 12" woofers/ch. Not all DIY but what the hell. Rap sucks big time. Mingus rules.

22nd October 2002, 09:59 PM	#10
Bill Fitzpatrick diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eugene, OR	jmpsmash: Maybe I should rephrase. Aside from the convenience of easy tweaking, crossovers inside the box work just as well as those outside. Heat is not a problem. As far a more important things to do, I retract that statement. __________________ Bill Fitzpatrick, the grumpiest person on the face of the planet. We may run out of food, we may run out of energy, we may run out of breathable air but we'll never run out of idiots. So, eat the idiots, burn their bones and be grateful for less hot air. ________________ Not of the body and certainly out of my mind. Pass the mugwump ji . . er . . juice. Nikko Pre-Amp, GAS Son, GAS Grandson, Mirage Electronic Crossover, Marantz CD63SE, Satellites and 2 12" woofers/ch. Not all DIY but what the hell. Rap sucks big time. Mingus rules.


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22nd October 2002, 03:18 AM	#4
jmpsmash diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, US	ah... thanks. i will leave them bare then. since the entry point into the speaker is so high, i am thinking of getting a cheapo 30" speaker stand, mount a wooden board on top, and have the xover mounted on that.... anyone know of a good source for cheap speaker stand? IKEA?

22nd October 2002, 03:33 AM	#6
PeteMcK diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sydney	Bill, I agree. I moved my xovers to the outside of the boxes 'cause I thought I might get around to tweaking them...........I never have, and it's one more thing to be careful of when moving the cabs, one more thing for the kids to play with when you're not looking.... cheers, Pete McK

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