veneer - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Multi-Way

Multi-Way Conventional loudspeakers with crossovers

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 21st November 2005, 08:51 PM   #1
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Unhappy veneer

hey,

hope i won't get "stupid act of the year" award on this one...
so i made two small wooden cabinets out of 17mm ply wood and they came out really good. i sanded everything down and got a great smooth feeling on all the edges and was about the use some tung oil and call it a day when i started thinking... the plywood isn't good looking so i better put something over it, some nice veneer!

i went to a huge veneer storage house today and they actually gave me around 50 sheets of 30cm x 50cm on african walnut which looks great! the thing is that the box is pretty much done so how do i cut the speaker holes and the rest out after glueing it?

i tried to cut some veneer using a knife i had around and it's not easy and at some point i got a major split so i undersood it won't be that easy. i don't want to make new speaker cabinets... help me people
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 09:19 PM   #2
karma is offline karma  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
karma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: hamilton,ontario
http://www.am-wood.com/tools/router.html
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 09:30 PM   #3
googler is offline googler  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois
For cutting raw veneer, I use a veneer saw. They are relatively inexpensive ($10-$20US). Once glued, I use an edge trimmer on the edges (as the name implies) and a router with a circle jig for the rebates and cutouts.
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 10:03 PM   #4
just another
diyAudio Moderator
 
wintermute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sydney
Blog Entries: 22
Hi MonoMonster,

have you rebated the holes for the drivers to make them flush mount?? if not then all you need is a flush trim bit for your router and it will do the trick (You will need to plunge through the veneer in the center and work your way out to the edge of the hole, and then run around it.... the flush trim bit has a bearing on the bottom which rolls around the existing surface trimming as it goes.

I'm actually not going to put veneer on my front baffle, mainly because of the way I did the rebating of the tweeter (used cricle jig to do the rebate first, then cut the hole out), I won't be able to reproduce with the veneer (as the center is gone), Instead I'm going to go with a black satin finish on the baffle, and veneer on the other sides.

Tony.
__________________
Any intelligence I may appear to have is purely artificial!
Some of my photos
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 10:55 PM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
thanks everyone

the holes are not rebated yet, i had a feeling that would be stupid if i'm going to cover the surface with veneer.

the problem is that i don't own a router but i see that there is no way around it if are building speakers so i'll look tomorrow if someone is selling a used one, maybe i can buy one for $40

wintermute - i'll drill a hole in the middle of the speaker hole and work the router from there or i should remover the veneer up to the edge with a file?

any chance for a picture of the kind of bit i need for the router? i'm afraid that israeli sale persons won't know the english name of the bit and i have no idea how they are called in hebrew
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 11:06 PM   #6
just another
diyAudio Moderator
 
wintermute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sydney
Blog Entries: 22
Hi Monomonster,

This is what I'm talking about http://www.apworkshop.com.au/html_ro...-lam-ftb2.html

if you print that off I'm sure they will know what it is

If you want a cheap router the GMC ones seem pretty good value, I'm thinking of getting one soon, as I need it to do my veneering.

it is probably safer to drill a hole and file to almost the edge of the hole but theoretically (provided you keep the router vertical) you shouldn't have problems if you just use the router to make your way to the edge...

how did you cut the current holes?? are they perfectly round? if they aren't then doing the rebate also won't likely be perfectly round. as the rebating bit follows the edge of the existing hole (note I haven't used a rebating bit)....

You have cut the holes already haven't you??? or have you got a clean baffle still (ie no holes yet).

Tony.
__________________
Any intelligence I may appear to have is purely artificial!
Some of my photos
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 11:15 PM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
thank you very much for the link!!!

i'll print it and take with me tomorrow when i'll go second-hand router shopping

the speaker and terminal holes were cut with cup drills, or maybe in english you call these hole cutter?

i had the right sizes around by pure luck and i used my press drill to cut in slowly so the holes are perfect. in fact the two speaker boxes came out so well that i was amazed as this is only my 3rd wood work this far... if i won't it up with the veneer i promise to post some pics.
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 11:34 PM   #8
just another
diyAudio Moderator
 
wintermute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sydney
Blog Entries: 22
Ahhh a hole saw yes that will work well in a drill press

you might want to look at these too (note I haven't used one) http://www.apworkshop.com.au/html_ro...N-efb-rb2.html for doing the rebates (but practice on some scrap MDF first!!!!!) you need to select the correct bearing size to get the right width to your rebate too!

I did my rebates with the router and DIY circle jig with a straight cut bit... because that seemed like the way to go at the time , though I had to make a concious decision at the time that I wouldn't try to veneer the front baffles.

edit: and just be aware that the router bits come in 1/4 inch and 1/2 inch varients, most routers are one or the other, some have collets that accept both sizes.

Tony.
__________________
Any intelligence I may appear to have is purely artificial!
Some of my photos
  Reply With Quote
Old 24th November 2005, 12:03 AM   #9
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
update... i had no luck buying a used router, everything they had at that shop was **** or brand name and those cost top $$$. i'll buy the local newspaper tomorrow and see if anyone is selling some hardware or maybe some woodshop is closing and has tools to sell (always a great source).

i did get something like this https://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=1701

i'll try to use it tomorrow, i just can't wait for a router. i hope i won't be sorry. by the way, if i'm using this edge cutter or even a router, how do i bend in the corners so they will look nice and round? i looked at a table i have that was made by a shop and it has some exotic wood veneer on it but it's about 2mm thick so the adges were made with a router i guess. so about really thin sheets like i have?
  Reply With Quote
Old 25th November 2005, 03:15 PM   #10
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
For future reference: never sand or round corners prior to gluing on vernier. The base surface should be perectly (as much as possible) flat with nice sharp edges. Run the verier long and route off the access on two sides. Run the next piece long to overlap the previous two pieces and route it to their nice flat surfaces. Good luck with the project, Chuck
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Red Oak Veneer chrismo Swap Meet 10 9th January 2007 10:12 PM
Veneer? philipbarrett Full Range 3 8th November 2005 02:20 AM
Veneer on veneer?? sam9 Multi-Way 5 1st August 2003 06:21 AM
Veneer Nathan Multi-Way 21 11th May 2003 05:52 PM
Some Q's on Veneer WhiteBoyChriss Multi-Way 6 27th November 2002 12:13 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:43 PM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2