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Old 7th November 2005, 07:37 PM   #11
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Build the perfect, the best ever, pair of speakers for 1000$.
Do the same thing with 10000$.

The difference will be noticeable yes, but very very small.

Let say you dump about 800$ in drivers, if they are already the best drivers ever, you're already at the top, what the next 9000$ will bring? Maybe better finish with Maple inserts in White Marble panels, so what? Same SQ.
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There is no way I can go for a budget of more than 1200-1500 of pair right now (I'm a college student! and I can't even afford that right now. I'd have to save up!). If I can't make something that is 99% of a really great loudspeaker for that budget, I figure I might as well make something for 300 bucks or so that's 85-90% of it... you know?
If you have never built a speaker before, start with something modest. Very musical speakers can be built for amazingly little these days. Especially if you take the attitude that the mains will have active woofer(s) below for bass support.

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Old 7th November 2005, 08:50 PM   #13
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Alright, here is a somewhat unrelated question.

If you had 400 to spend on a pair of mids that had to be able to cross over at 400-600hz, and 4-6khz, what would you pick?

I have Fountek JP3 tweeters, and while they arn't the best ribbons they should satisfy for low level listening.

I also have 4 Dayton Reference RS-270 woofers, that I could put in a sealed enclosure with a Linkwitz transform (I thought about TL but the box would be just way too big).

The midrange is where most of my hearing is anyway.
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CreativeSound WR125S or FR125S.
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Old 7th November 2005, 09:36 PM   #15
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CreativeSound WR125S or FR125S.
Ditto. Or Fostex FE108eSigma, FE168eSigma. Visaton B200 (BIG box or open back box). Jordan JX92.

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Old 7th November 2005, 10:14 PM   #16
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Build the perfect, the best ever, pair of speakers for 1000$.
Not going to happen

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[i]The difference will be noticeable yes, but very very small.[/B]
I disagree.

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[i]Let say you dump about 800$ in drivers, if they are already the best drivers ever[/B]
They're not

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[i]you're already at the top, what the next 9000$ will bring?[/B]
Better drivers

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[i]Same SQ. [/B]
Not the same.

If you're as satisfied with a $1,000 speaker as you are with a $10,000 set then congrats, you'll save a lot of money in the long run.

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about 800$ in drivers, if they are already the best drivers ever
$800 might be the sales tax on the best drivers ever.

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Old 7th November 2005, 10:41 PM   #18
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I have a hard time believing you guys.

When the best tweeter ever tested by Zaph is worth 30$, even in front of a 160$ and a 225$ tweeter, both of them that receive the best tweeter in the world award quite often... I tend to believe that the 30$ tweeter is maybe the best in the whole universe?

Now in the midrange, which midrange is THAT much better than a cheap FR125S?
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I am wondering if there is a midrange that is ribbon or planar in my price range, besides the BGCorps? The Neo8 is interesting, and the Neo10 seems like it'd be great, but it's not out for OEM yet.

Any other ribbon or planars, so am I better off using dynamic drivers?
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When the best tweeter ever tested by Zaph is worth 30$, even in front of a 160$ and a 225$ tweeter, both of them that receive the best tweeter in the world award quite often... I tend to believe that the 30$ tweeter is maybe the best in the whole universe?
I really doubt that the best tweeter is a dome at all. And which is best is dependant on the rest of the drivers and your system. IMO, the best "cheap" tweeters are ribbons. I haven't seen an open back one yet (except the Heil variation), so those are still compromized. And if your system is horn loaded a dome is going to be like bland tapioca.

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Now in the midrange, which midrange is THAT much better than a cheap FR125S?
Both the Fostex i mentioned are better in the mids than the FR. More critical of the amps you use and they won't do the bass the FR125 will, but as mids from 200-300 Hz up to 5-8 kHz...

And there are drivers such as the Exact with reputations which would have them creaming these two (but again, the sales tax on the Exact would buy either of the Fostex)

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