Morel vs. Dynaudio drivers

[mr_push_pull]

Just out of curiosity, how do they compare in sound?

[newfinish]

better is morel in sound and toughnest.then
dynaudio

my tast but all the dynaudio I have listened don't have image or soundstage like morel

[ElectricHead]

Morel is slow and muddy and Dynaudio is even worse.

[mr_push_pull]

Hi newfinish and ElectricHead

Could you be more precise please? Which drivers have you compared?

Thanks.

[ElectricHead]

A friend of mine has a loudspeaker DIY shop here in Hamburg, he has a lot of speakers there, I've listened to quiet a lot of Morel concepts and nearly or maybe all dynaudio speakers since 1988. Even the €5.000,- dynaudios sounding completely unrealistic in ANY term, and Morel... naaah.... i.e: Vifa, Seas & Eton are all lightyears ahead. The problem with dynaudio and morel is maybe they do not have much colorations but they are hopelessly slow and the transienst responses are a laugh, that makes this drivers sooooooo boring and out of reality.

[mr_push_pull]

That's reassuring as I'm starting to build a pair of bookshelves with Morel MW144 and MDT32S
One of the things I was hoping to get from them is fast transients.

[newfinish]

HU521 14cm 54mm Poly Cone 88 160 8 5.6 .53 16 46 9.9 2.2 .46 .37 ±3.5 119
HU531 14cm 75mm Poly Cone 86 180 8 6.8 .63 13 46 9.9 1.8 .46 .37 ±4.3 119
HU621 16cm 54mm Poly Cone 90 160 8 5.6 .53 16 43 27 2.3 .45 .38 ±3.5 138
HU631 16cm 75mm Poly Cone 88 180 8 6.8 .63 13 44 17 1.7 .46 .36 ±4.3 138
HU9.1 22cm 75mm Poly Cone 89 200 8 6.6 .87 20 30 71 1.7 .46 .36 ±4.3 196
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these are excellent Morel very fast and detail,dynaudio personnally are just no good period,any driver.but If you want overall great mid go with vifa,deep bass scanspeak,a bit of both with less detail,slightly though.I have heard peerless
peerless X176WR3308 18cm 33mm Comp Cone 87 150 8 6.1 1.3 9 38 28 2.2 .53 .43 ±5.5
aswome job for the money that is not saying this the best but budget wise excellent.

[newfinish]

Originally posted by mr_push_pull
That's reassuring as I'm starting to build a pair of bookshelves with Morel MW144 and MDT32S
One of the things I was hoping to get from them is fast transients.

then just dont try to make it play to low and you will keep it fast as it can be

[mr_push_pull]

Originally posted by newfinish
HU521 14cm 54mm Poly Cone 88 160 8 5.6 .53 16 46 9.9 2.2 .46 .37 ±3.5 119
HU531 14cm 75mm Poly Cone 86 180 8 6.8 .63 13 46 9.9 1.8 .46 .37 ±4.3 119
HU621 16cm 54mm Poly Cone 90 160 8 5.6 .53 16 43 27 2.3 .45 .38 ±3.5 138
HU631 16cm 75mm Poly Cone 88 180 8 6.8 .63 13 44 17 1.7 .46 .36 ±4.3 138
HU9.1 22cm 75mm Poly Cone 89 200 8 6.6 .87 20 30 71 1.7 .46 .36 ±4.3 196
----------+----+----+---------+--+---+-+---+---+---+----+---+---+---+---+----+-----+
these are excellent Morel very fast and detail,dynaudio personnally are just no good period,any driver.but If you want overall great mid go with vifa,deep bass scanspeak,a bit of both with less detail,slightly though.I have heard peerless
peerless X176WR3308 18cm 33mm Comp Cone 87 150 8 6.1 1.3 9 38 28 2.2 .53 .43 ±5.5
aswome job for the money that is not saying this the best but budget wise excellent.

Initially I wanted to buy something from the hybrid series, but for some reason I changed my mind. Actually "some" reason is that I wanted to have that beautiful dynaudio-like 7.5cm dustcap. I'm an idiot.
Btw, why do they keep using the reason of improved power dissipation for promoting their hexatech "technology", is that just marketing ********? If you simulate a Dynaudio or Morel driver in a bass reflex box (which is what their finished loudspeakers are), they run out of excursion at below 20W.
I listened to the Morel Octave Speakers, and at moderate levels (moderate is not an exaggeration) thy seemed to be close to Xmax, if not beyond. And obviously I could hear that also... Initially I blame the amp for it but I think it's time to realize it was wishful thinking.
What use is good heat dissipation when you're distorting due to high excursion?

Fast transient response... you can't trust anyone nowadays.

[ElectricHead]

Let this put clear: If you want fast transient response than take a PHL or Vifa or Seas or Peerless.

BTW, I agree completely with newfinish.