Passlabs Rushmore

[David Gatti]

This has to be one of the world's best speakers.
Does anyone recognise the drivers ?

http://www.passlabs.com/downloads/rushmore_lit.pdf

 

[phase_accurate]

Did you search ?

Regards

Charles

 

[jacco vermeulen]

PHL, dude.
French brand, PHilippe Lesage.

http://www.phlaudio.com/phl/summary.html

 

[David Gatti]

Thanks.

 

[Luke]

If you ask nicely, Nelson may knock up a kit for you

 

[David Gatti]

Hehehe .... we wish.
Actually I think 4 of them in a surround system would be nice

 

[mac]

I heard them at the last CES and they were not that impressive. Maybe under different conditions...?

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[Luke]

I heard them at the last CES and they were not that impressive. Maybe under different conditions...?

When kit looks this good, its ok to sound "not that impressive"

 

[David Gatti]

I find it very hard to draw conclusions at hi-fi stores, let alone at a noisy exhibition with bad acoustics and unfamiliar music.
Also, my experience has been that the more accurate speakers tend to sound less "impressive" because they don't have exaggerated mids or highs etc.

 

[Cloth Ears]

...my experience has been that the more accurate speakers tend to sound less "impressive" because they don't have exaggerated mids or highs etc.

In my experience also. If the music's impressive, then that's good. If the speaker's impressive, then it's altering the playback or colouring the sound. The only time the speaker should be impressive is when it's off - and then as a peice of sculpture.

All IMHO, of course.

 

[Luke]

I find it strange how people talk about coloration, every thing has it, so work out what color you like and build it

 

[DaveM]

What is your favorite color?

Blue, no red....


AAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!

 

[moe29]

If i had the money, these would be in my living room

 

[akunec]

If I had the money, I'd put a downpayment on a house.

 

[mac]

I find it very hard to draw conclusions at hi-fi stores, let alone at a noisy exhibition with bad acoustics and unfamiliar music.
Also, my experience has been that the more accurate speakers tend to sound less "impressive" because they don't have exaggerated mids or highs etc.

David, to a certain extent I'd agree with you. But I would never make such sweeping statements.

To provide some context, I heard the Rushmore at CES, however, the room was quite large, it was very quiet and there were exactly three people in it.

Also, to imply that I don't know good sound when I hear it is rather presumptuous, especially considering that you know what I use for a reference speaker.

Instead of trying to be PC by saying that they weren't that impressive, perhaps I should have said that they they sounded bad (they didn't). Or, maybe I should have said that I could hear the traits of the PHL drivers (I did). Or, maybe I should have simply said that my Orion’s sounded vastly better. You pick.

 

[Audiophilenoob]

everyone who's heard the PHL 1120 raise your hand in admiration for that fantastic driver

*raises hand*

the rest of the speaker I'll pass on

 

[David Gatti]

Thing is, you were not very specific Mac.
"Not that impressive" and "could hear the traits of the PHL drivers" is extremely vague and tells us very little about their sound. If you are going to criticise a product, I think you should back it up with something more substantial.

 

[Audiophilenoob]

Thing is, you were not very specific Mac.
"Not that impressive" and "could hear the traits of the PHL drivers" is extremely vague and tells us very little about their sound. If you are going to criticise a product, I think you should back it up with something more substantial.

traits of the PHL drivers eh??

I have never heard a speaker more "traitless" than the PHL 1120

 

[Salas]

Isn't that an Audax mid on Rushmore?

 

[ShinOBIWAN]

David, to a certain extent I'd agree with you. But I would never make such sweeping statements:

Or, maybe I should have simply said that my Orion’s sounded vastly better.

No never a sweeping statement