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...or something like that.
Disclaimer: this is a compromise project, intended for my sister, who wanted to have a nice-sounding home stereo system to use occasionally as a PA. Construction costs, shipping and a little for me came to right around $200 US. You can read some details at my website; otherwise, I have two comments: [list=1][*]I don't understand baffle step loss. These things, a four-foot long (<1 meter) 4-inch diameter PVC pipe speaker system, with a nice Vifa 4-inch driver mounted directly on the end, really thump down low. If there is baffle-step loss, then... then... then what? How much lower can these things go? I haven't bothered to measure them, but my ears tell me that the F3 is far lower than I expected. In truth, I didn't expect very much at all in the low end of the spectrum for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the understanding that BS will occur much higher when the driver is mounted directly onto a cylinder. [*]Transmission Lines sound better with some kinds of music than with others. I auditioned two CDs, U2's How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb and an Anda Mozart piano concerto CD. I noticed that all the good parts were there on the U2 CD, but they seemed "smeary." Mozart was heavenly, though. This is an observation I can say is a common denominator for all three of my TLs, especially for the two which reproduce deep bass frequencies. Rock = smeary, classical = heavenly.[/list=1] Well, notwithstanding, I'm sad that I have to send these off to my sister because they sound excellent. I'm not going to call up Linkwitz and tell him to forget the Orion, but I am quite pleased with the price/performance ratio. This project pleases me. I appreciate any comments or corrections. Thanks, Dave
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Here's a question: have I actually mounted the driver "in the center of a circular baffle"? Or have I mounted it on no baffle at all?
Dave
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your baffle is 4"
Your low end response will be 3dB down at 300/ft -> 300/(1/3) = 900Hz. As for not liking the U2 as much, many more things factor into that, particularly the driver itself. |
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did you use any stuffing?
how long are the pipes? Cheers, Pete McK |
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They are around 48" long. They are stuffed to spec using MJKs mathcad worksheets.
I'm listening to them, trying to hear the BS loss. I just don't know what to think. There's a scoop in the mids, and a nice hump just above the scoop, but it's really a design flaw that serves the function. You know, accidentally on purpose. I listened to them at comfortable levels all day, and there was no ear fatigue. It's kinda hot toward the upper mids, as mentioned, but they sound nice for a couple of drivers shoved into the end of a four-foot four-inch PVC sewer pipe. Dave
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Another innovative project Dave... what's next? dave
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Thanks, dave.
Since the caterpillars, I've been spending time experimenting, mostly learning what the squiggles on the modelling software actually sound like in real life. It's ok, I learned, to have some measure of design compromise. You can hear the squiggles, but not all of them are bad. Not all of them are good, either. Which ones can I live with? I also learned that a 4-inch driver can really rock, if you talk to it the way a 4-inch driver likes to be talked to, you know, flowers, candy, PVC pipe, etc. At the moment, I'm helping someone make a spiral enclosure with either a Fostex Fe108ez or Fe167e. If he goes through with it--what a committment!--it should be an improvement over the caterpillars, both visually and performance-wise. What's next for me? A half-dozen chipamps early this season, then, who knows? Something's cooking, I assure you. All these experiments keep coming out pretty good. Not to mention the ones I don't publish, namely some OB/dipole stuff. Whatever it is, it won't be a box. I'm so glad someone finally asked. Dave
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