OT: Cloning Commerical Speakers

[69stingray]

Hello everyone. I would be interesting in seeing people's efforts in trying to clone a commerical speaker. What did the price difference end up being? How did they sound? I am sure there are plenty of success stories, are there any failures (failure is such a harsh word, not as successful as you wish to be)? Pictures?

[JoshK]

try kloneaudio.com

Thomas & Jon have been very sucessful in kloning some interesting speaks. I am sure they had their fair share of road blocks along the way.

[Audiophilenoob]

http://www.deadwaxcafe.com/vzone/david/david.htm

the best to me thus far is reproducing the $24k watt puppy's for $500 in speaker parts

[ruerose]

Originally posted by JoshK
try kloneaudio.com

Thomas & Jon have been very sucessful in kloning some interesting speaks. I am sure they had their fair share of road blocks along the way.

That link doesnt work, i am curious about the work they do.

A cursory look in google doesnt seem to bring anything substantial, a few old threads with dead links.

[Audiophilenoob]

Originally posted by ruerose



That link doesnt work, i am curious about the work they do.

A cursory look in google doesnt seem to bring anything substantial, a few old threads with dead links.

www.klone-audio.com

[Cal Weldon]

I'd like to know how many cloners have heard them side by side with the originals

[Audiophilenoob]

Originally posted by Cal Weldon
I'd like to know how many cloners have heard them side by side with the originals

I dunno... a watt puppy wouldn't really be that hard...

I think the point is cloning the looks and fine tuning it to their tastes

[69stingray]

Originally posted by Audiophilenoob


www.klone-audio.com

I really like the write on the Whipsers. I have always love the looks of those speakers.

Couple quick questions, the PR is for the (4) 7" midrange, correct? This does not seem to be very common, what are the benfits of adding a PR to the midrange enclosure?

How are the (4) 15" woofers wired?

Anyone else have thier own projects that they cloned? I think it is great reading.

[mike.e]

A few issues.

People dont mention the hours of design, crossover mucking about, woodworking etc in the costs.

Its a clone if it is identical IE abx testing reveals no audible difference.

Id be happy with some of the same character and same tonal type and 'much the same' response at the listening position.

Using high value drivers of the right model,in the right situation should provide pleasing results.

Physical dimensions help keep diffraction bafflestep simialar to the original. One area overlooked could be ply+ bitumen or fancy composite materials to reduce enclosure output.

"for initial studies I used SoundEasy 3, but for final crossover development I used LSPCAD. Because I desired a wider vertical lobe in the crossover region, I chose a third order Butterworth crossover topology, instead of a Linkwitz-Riley fourth order all pass design. "


http://www.cliowin.com/FOTO/gpphoto/Hancock/slamm.htm

[cfb]

I’d have to say that the Sentinel project called “xXx” by Erik van Voorst (must be a Vin Diesel fan) was also fairly impressive even down to using the Accuton/Thiel D2 20/6 diamond tweeters. He must have invested $8K or so in the parts. Plus a very well made constrained layer cabinet with lead sheet and composite, even ebony and cork damping. There’s a full thread on its construction over at http://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.p...;threadid=8497

plus his own web page on the speaker project at,
http://home.wanadoo.nl/e.van.voorst/ProjectSpeakers.htm