resonant frequency of water (distilled) and how to make speaker play underwater

[TheBuzz]

H2 resonates at 42.680 mhz which you can do with silicone however the most effective frequency is 921 mhz and for that you are probably going to have to build a cavity to get the power needed. From what I have read in a patent, at 921mhz, the production is OU. (Dr. Santilli's patent)

The resonant frequency you are searching for has nothing to do with the cell, it is how you drive a piezo device. You might try crushing quartz crystal into a fine dust and packing that between the cells. It resonates at 32768 KHZ. 32768 / 64 = 512 /64 = 8. You are mostly made of hydrogen and your human body is constructed from a base 8 math. Connection?

The platonic solid shape of quartz is a tetrahedron which has 4 triangle sides and constructs a nanopoint which is used in high end radars.

The quartz emits voltage when the voltage is removed. Electrons flow to voltage.

Meyer always talked about preventing electron leakage. He was not worried about them leaking out of the cell, he was worried about them getting in. That is the purpose of the stainless steel wire in the VIC. Steel is a current shunt that allows voltage to pass. In his earlier dune buggy, he used a water resistor with pure water to pass voltage but limit current.

You might have a look at the patents Meyer referenced. In one of them was a fuse packed with silicone dioxide (quartz).

Hope all that helps.

[TheBuzz]

Correction, a tetrahedron is a three sided triangle shape. Like a three sided pyramid.

[J.R.Freeman]

The resonant frequency of a suspended fluid is related to the mass of fluid involved. Air suspended in a bass reflex port, for example, sets up a resonant system whose center frequency depends on the mass of the air in the port.

There may be a frequency at which the bonds between water molecules will ring, and perhaps separate. I suspect this is how those ultrasonic water based fog machines work.

For under-water speakers, some questions I would have would be what are the sound propagation characteristics of water, and how does one effectively couple the driver diaphragm to this medium?

I can say from experience that digital watches, when their alarm goes off, can be heard clearly throughout a small above-ground swimming pool! Higher frequencies seem to propagate well, with the illusion of being very close to the source. I have no idea what would happen to something much lower. For interests sake, the driver involved with the watch is a piezo-electric type.

JF

[BlueWizard]

I have followed this thread, but it seems to have been asleep for a while, so I'm not completely up to date.

Let me ask this -

What is the resonance frequency of air?

Does it have an inherent resonance frequency regardless of volume or based on a standard volume? Perhaps.

But I think air is the medium, and it is the container that actually resonates based on its size and shape. Think - pipe organ; the same air flows through all the pipes.

I would assume the same for water. Water would resonate based on the size and shape of the container which holds it, because water is only the medium by which its container resonates.

Just a thought.

Steve/bluewizard

[TheBuzz]

It has nothing to do with the resonant frequency of water. It has to do with electrostatic attraction and fracturing using ultrasonic energy.

The electostatic opens up the atom and the cavitation from the ultrasonic causes the electron cascade.

[J.R.Freeman]

Originally posted by TheBuzz
It has nothing to do with the resonant frequency of water. It has to do with electrostatic attraction and fracturing using ultrasonic energy.

The electostatic opens up the atom and the cavitation from the ultrasonic causes the electron cascade.

Buzz, that's interesting. When you say "opens up the atom" - are you sure something is happening at the atomic level? I would tend to think the ultrasonic signal is breaking the bonds between molecules.

Do you suppose this has nothing to do with resonance? This thread got me thinking - and I bet there is a frequency at which water molecules resonate. A resonant system is any suspended mass. In this case, the masses are the individual molecules, and the suspensions are the polar bonds between them. Would this not be a resonant system?

JF

edit: wait, I think I see what you are saying: the molecular bonds are electrostatic, that I agree. So breaking of these bonds means electrons are being redistributed on an atomic level. But as the water molecules remain intact, it's safe to say this process occurs on the molecular level. Do you agree?

[TheBuzz]

@ JR Freeman,

It is a little more complex than what I stated. Meyer made ozone but better than O3 he made O4 and above in his air/gas processor.

From what I understand oxygen absorbs at around 752 - 760 nm and the two tubes in the air/ gas processor where charged using autoformers.

Whether the tubes were heterodyned and or one ran positive and the other ran negative, the basic idea is that the O2 molecule will trade a covalent electron for a photon when the red leds inject photons.

From there the O4 and steam are mixed and I suspect ultrasonic energy causes the bond cleaving to take place. Ultrasonic mixers are great for mixing things that don't want to mix. That is what the resonant cavity is all about.

The large powerful O4 atom easily cleaves the weaker covalent electron from the water molecule.

When I disclosed this info. on web sites like overunity.com which is a spook trap designed to suppress free energy devices I got banned. That is pretty good confirmation that the information is correct.

I think they call that type cf a device a cathode laser accelerator.

[energratis]

Dear fiends

I want to share with you my experience in this theme, I've used not sound waves for split water and get hydrogen, I've used electrical resonance using steel cells, the frequency is near to the values commented here, but is more single get it for the single formula:

E = h * f

E is the energy needed for split one H-O dipole in the water molecule, E is in dependence of enviroment temperature, pressure, etc,.... so f is a not constant value and changes according this parameters, but f is a high frequency value of too much gigahertz near to optical frequencies and common circuits don't works at the main frequency, so you can work in sub-harmonic values, in the kilohertz range is adequate for get this split tuning the oscillator until get the maximal hydrogen generation

My results give an energy gain about of 750, that is say output energy of hydrogen heating is 750 times the electrical energy needed in the resonance, this don't violates the energy conservation laws, extra energy becomes of the internal stored energy in the water molecule and the reaction between hydrogen and enviroment oxygen.

I've builded kitchens, solders, electricity generators are using common water as fuel, but without sound waves, using resonant circuits and steel cells

With years of experience in this testing I've discovered energy is not in the water or hydrogen, is in the frequency and can be extracted directly of the low power oscillator

Bye, regards

[gedlee]

Originally Posted by energratis

Dear fiends


E = h * f

E is the energy needed for split one H-O dipole in the water molecule, E is in dependence of enviroment temperature, pressure, etc,.... so f is a not constant value and changes according this parameters, but f is a high frequency value of too much gigahertz near to optical frequencies and common circuits don't works at the main frequency, so you can work in sub-harmonic values, in the kilohertz range is adequate for get this split tuning the oscillator until get the maximal hydrogen generation

Bye, regards

And h is Plank's constant? Thats the quantum relationship for a photon and has nothing to do with sound.

[pheonix358]

Originally Posted by DIY_newbie

LOL,

Thousands of scientists working on the problem for atleast 20 years and you thought the answer was DIYAUDIO.com and a big speaker amplifier??

I highly recommend you look over at Nikola Tesla Page, Tesla Coil (Bill Beaty's Homepage) look over some of his experiments and then try the "Nikola Tesla forum" link for some pretty good reading...

--Chris

Seriously, any time those thousands of scientists get close the petrolium giants step in and buy the research. That has been happening for more than 20 years. Many good ideas never see the light of day.

Why can't this community come up with something ground breaking.

Terry