Clarity on Seas Thor Kit

[HansG]

Hey, diggin' up an oldie but goodie here

I'm interested in buying ar pair of built and used Thor's, searhec the net and stumbled over this thread... Leaving a bit more than somewhat puzzled. I've previously owned a pair of TDL RTL-2's (the original design with the sometimes "rude" tweeter, nevertheless, very "musical" speaker) and fell in love with the TL characteristics. Will I be disappointed in the performance of the original Thors?? I listen to jazz/funk and some acoustic music, I like to feel bass notes from bass drums and contrabass
Is the gain worth the effort the rebuild the boxes to the Fat Thor design?

Looking forward to hearing from you guys!

[Scottmoose]

Yes, you probably would be disapointed. The fact that a cabinet is a transmission line does not automatically mean it's up to much, sadly. Remember, one TL is as different from another TL as one BR box is different from another BR box. Those old TDLs were good -Thor is passable, assuming the stuffing is ripped out of the last 10in or so of the line, but no more than that. Leave the stuffing as uniform density & it's operating almost like a 'perfect' TL, with almost the entire back-wave damped out, a very flat impedence curve presented to the driver, and medicore bass power / extension.

It probably would be worth the effort to build the Fat Thor -I'd be inclined toward one of the mass-loaded boxes though (Short Thor & Small Thor) which should give the best performance from these drivers.

[Renron]

I can personally vouch for the design of the small Thors. I built a pair of "curved Thors" and took them to the "Burning Amp" festival on Sunday in San Francisco. They were VERY well received by the audience. Many people stopped their individual conversations when the Thors were playing. The choice of music was not my favorite but it was OK. Sound wise? I love 'em.
I Thank Scott Moose and Planet 10 for the design, and credit was given to them both as the designer of the speakers.

Not terribly efficient speakers but the quality makes up for volume.
Ron

[jgwinner]

I've only built the 'normal' Thor's and I liked them - my center channel is an "Odin" and I like the THor's a little better. I also have a 15" subwoofer too ... this is for a home theater.

I haven't built the small Thors yet so I can't compare.

I guess you're thinking of buying the speakers and making a new enclosure.

That reminds me, I need to go find a coat hanger and pull some stuffing out.

[troystg]

Repute is STILL enjoying his nude (yuk) fat Thors.

Eventually he will get around to covering them.

But they sound VERY good and he doesn't have the need for a subwoofer.

[Renron]

I don't use a subwoofer when listening to the small Thors either. I had one person tell me there was too much bass!. Nahh..... Just right. Sub is used for home theater only. These guys did themselves proud with the cabinet modifications.......
I'll say it again.
Thank you ScottMoose and Planet 10.
Wish you could have been at the burning amp to hear'em.

Ron

[troystg]

As Renron says:

"I'll say it again.
Thank you ScottMoose and Planet 10. "

I can't agree with you more on that. And the fat Thor's weren't even mine, I just get to enjoy them occasionally.

[HansG]

Ok, guys thanks alot for the response!

The guy who's selling the pair I've found wants about 850USD, they seem well built in 25mm MDF, and with good components in the XO, not the cheapest components.

My thoughts are that it can't be no deal buying these, since the drivers are as good as they are. A "worst case" will be building new boxes, and I think I'm capable of that.
Thanks also for the tip about ripping out some of the stuffing (Y)

Any more guiding thoughts?

[Byrd]

Hey - whatabout a bit of thanks to the guy who start all this argument ?. I spent quite a bit of time arguing with Dave & Scott, that has to count for something. Only kidding all creds to Scott, Dave, Martin and everybody who participated.

Hans - IF you are paying for shipping maybe it would be better to just get the drivers & xover shipped to you, and pay for a litre / or two of petrol to burn those original boxes.

[planet10]

Originally posted by Byrd
pay for a litre / or two of petrol to burn those original boxes.

They'd probably burn fine without the petrol...

dave

planet10/burning will start this weekend on the summer collection of dead boxes.