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Old 4th September 2005, 07:44 AM   #1
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Default Sonus faber minima -crossover-which one?

Hi.
I have two minima's project with different crossover parts value.

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Which one is the original??
Maybe it is after upgrade??
Why there is no info about them?
When they were made? Is this the real loudspeaker of sonus faber ??
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Old 4th September 2005, 09:19 AM   #2
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These are facsimile,not original Sonus Faber!!!!
woofer is different
tweeter is different
crossover is different
cabinet is perfect ( too much perfect, maybe the man has modified/ "upgradated" a pair of original Minima SF, in his attempt)
The minima project is about 20 years old.
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Old 4th September 2005, 11:22 AM   #3
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well....
do you think are they worth build to? Is there any better project for the same $ ? Maybe using SS revelatros..?
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Old 4th September 2005, 12:23 PM   #4
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'Cloning' in DIY is a loose term.

I would go for a Zaph design: http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker12.html
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Old 4th September 2005, 03:02 PM   #5
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Default Sonus Faber Minima

e-can, (sorry for my english)
I don't understand your position. Have you listened the SF Minima or not?
In the "hall of fame" of hystorical minimonitors Minima is a true little jewel. Some people prefer the LS3/5A, others the ENSAMBLE PA1 , others the Spica T-50 or T60. Do you know these speakers?
In a previous post I specified you all the story.
Seas 11 FGX = CA 11 RCY= H149 ( Madisound 43 USD each)
For the tw, if you have not the D28-D28/2, the MDT 30/32 is acceptable
in the simulator, The SEAS TFDC 27 seems perfect with the original filter. But this is a simulation, caution is required .
Today Minima is out of production.
In Italy one pair of Minima used is about 450 euro.
I haven't others advises to you.
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P.S. :In a Italian Audio Review interview with SF's Patron little time ago , he declared his reference speaker was Minima again ( not Guarnieri,Cremona,Amati,etc) !!!!!
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Old 4th September 2005, 04:26 PM   #6
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->inertial
Hi.
I've just brought the speakers (excells and morels). I was wondering why there is no info about them. I've not listened any of mentioned monitor....Now I see why there is no info about SF minima...out of production...but I was wondering if there is any better project at the same $...I could buy the SS revelators,but didn't.....troels gravsen wrote that minimas almost beats his LS3/5A...so I decided to build them...so from your point of view it's a good choice to build minima's ?
I don't want any alu speakers...I prefer 'soft' sound..don't want to listen metalic sound....excell is much better especially paper one's...
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Old 5th September 2005, 09:27 AM   #7
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e-can,
the excel 4" is a bit different from 4" standard. No ideal situation.
But , you have the raw drivers... so try a prototipe and listen it!
I can't talking about things I haven't listened
My opinion is irrilevant.
If you can try all the 3 x-overs and judge yourself........
good luck !

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