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Old 9th August 2005, 05:13 AM   #1
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Default Any current dayton RS dipole project posted?

I've always wanted to do a full dipole setup and the Orion seems just right. Only downfall is: the drivers cost too much. The alternative is the new dayton RS. What do you guys think?

1. RS28 or a Seas standard tweeter + rs170 + 2 tc subs

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2. Fountek ribbons/AC + 2 rs170 + 2 tc subs


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Old 9th August 2005, 05:29 AM   #2
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I was going to say "no, the crossovers cost too much" but then realized crossover boxes such as yours and the Beringer 2496 are getting really cheap- I saw the 2496 for $200

Can you do the crossovers from the bass to the mids, mids to the tweeters and shape the low end for 2 channels? all with one of those crossover gizmos?

What are tc subs? The 4 Peerless subs he specs are really the expensive thing!
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Yea, I like the idea of an RS dipole. although I'll take some RS 10" or similar drivers, and come in at a lesser cost then a TC2+ version.
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I was going to say "no, the crossovers cost too much" but then realized crossover boxes such as yours and the Beringer 2496 are getting really cheap- I saw the 2496 for $200

Can you do the crossovers from the bass to the mids, mids to the tweeters and shape the low end for 2 channels? all with one of those crossover gizmos?

What are tc subs? The 4 Peerless subs he specs are really the expensive thing!
Yes, the dcx2496 is the reason why i can afford to go active.
I'm not too familiar with all the settings yet though. As far as I know, it can bandpass all outputs (6) and has a few parametric bands on each output. It also does time alignment and phase as well.

TC subs are these http://www.oaudio.com/TC2_PLUS.html
if i remember correctly, a member on here did compare the TC sub to the xls and the TC came out to be a better sub.
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Old 9th August 2005, 05:58 AM   #5
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Yea, I like the idea of an RS dipole. although I'll take some RS 10" or similar drivers, and come in at a lesser cost then a TC2+ version.

I'm not quite sure if the RS 10" would do that well down low in a dipole setup.
If I went with this dipole route, I would not want a separate sub.

I think that amplification cost will be what kills my pocket.


*Edit*
as I'm typing this, I remember that Mark K did have a dipole RS project with the dcx,
just as I go to check out his site, the link is gone.

if you're reading this Mark, help a fellow out
a link would help
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Old 9th August 2005, 06:24 AM   #6
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The amps for this type of speaker has been discussed in other threads.

Since you will need about 8, and cost is a big factor, chip amps seem the best solution. Linkwitch even suggests this as an option.You can use a large power supply to power all 4 of one channel. A power transformer twice as big is only a few dollars more. A diode brige can handle a lot more poweri f it has a decent heatsink.
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Old 9th August 2005, 06:47 AM   #7
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I'm a former Orion owner and currently have a set of MTM dipoles which use the RS180 woofers and RS28A tweeter. I happen to also be using a DCX2496 with them. They have a very high bang-for-the-buck ratio but (IMHO) fall short of offering Orion-level performance.

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Old 9th August 2005, 05:55 PM   #8
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RS Dipole + DCX

http://www.mfk-projects.com/rs_dipole.htm

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Old 9th August 2005, 06:49 PM   #9
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Wow, are those Dayton Titanik 12" in that W-Frame underneath?
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Old 9th August 2005, 07:04 PM   #10
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nope, those are scc300's from Soniccraft.
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