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Old 1st August 2005, 08:30 AM   #1
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Default Matching speaker sensitivities

Ok.. In a few weeks' time, i'll start work on my most ample project to date: 5 (five) bi-amped, 2-way cabinets, with a 35/50W mid-woofer and a silk dome tweeter. Now, the mid has an SPL of 82dB @1W/1m, while the tweeters are around 90-92 dB.

My question is: How can i (measure, if needed and somehow) equalize the sensitivities of the speakers??? (i.e. reduce the tweeter from 90-92 to 82 dB, to match the mid-woofer)

Note that i intend to use a 4th order Linkwitz-Riley crossover before the power amps for each cabinet, and the output buffers have a level control for each frequency band (mid and high, respectively).
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You can do that with a L-pad.

You could also use several mid-woofers to need less EQ,

If you use 4 mid-woofers per tweeter, you'll have 88 dB versus 90-92 dB tweeter.

82 dB is really poor efficiency, I hope that mid-woofer is worth it...
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Well, i don't want to build anything like a PA system, so 4 woofers per tweeter is out

The thing is that i wanna come out pretty cheap, so i'm gonna be forced to do some compromises. This mid-woofer is something like 7$ so...

Umm.. getting back on topic, know any links to something related to L-pads?

http://sound.westhost.com/project09.htm

Or better yet, some data about the relationship between the output buffer 's pot's travel and the actual SPL (if there is a remotely linear relationship...)
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If you cross over actively you don't need the same sensitivity. Just turn down the level on the tweeters.
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I KNOW THAT THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO DO!!! I just want to find out (as objectively as possible) just HOW MUCH to turn down the tweeter level. Subjectivity isn't good enough for me
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I KNOW THAT THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO DO!!! I just want to find out (as objectively as possible) just HOW MUCH to turn down the tweeter level. Subjectivity isn't good enough for me
8 to 10 db.
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L-pad calculator at the end of this webpage...

http://ccs.exl.info/calc_cr.html
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Yeah, thanx carlosfm, i figured that much by myself..

Damn.. When i ask questions, i ask questions
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Measure, adjust the appropriate pot, measure again, etc. This also lets you compensate for variation between units somewhat. Of course measuring will open up a whole new can of worms about the crossover, but you can cross that bridge when you get to it.

See my webpage for some info on a cheap measuring setup.
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Subjectivity isn't good enough for me
You might be astounded how accurate this works sometimes !!!!

OTOH you can use a soundcard-based measurement program and a simple measurement mic to do so.

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