Best DIY Floorstander to Build

theokalat · 14th July 2005, 03:06 PM

Hi there folks,
Theo from down under in good ol' OZ.
I have decided to build a good DIY floorstander from published designs on the net.
The two I have narrowed it down to are the following:

Troel Gravesons SP38/13 using soley Scanspeak drivers. Looks very impressive.

Link: http://home1.stofanet.dk/troels.gravesen/

And the other is Wayne Jaeschkes 2 way Eros MK11.

Link: http://www.speakerbuilder.net/web_fi...ct/erosmk2.htm

Both look extremely tempting but I prefer some feedback from anyone who has built any of these kits to give me a better idea of what to expect from them. I was wondering if anyone out there has built or heard any positive reviews of these speakers and which one would be the better of the two to build regardless of cost.

Cheers

Theo Kalat

Andreas75 · 28th July 2005, 06:23 AM

Hi

I am about to begin building Troels Gravesen´s sp38/13. Been looking around a lot before I decided on the sp38/13.

Only waiting for my ss 3806 before I am getting started. Also getting my 8531g00 coated by Troels.

I think this speaker looks quite interesting. Haven´t heard it yet though. Going to visit Troels soon for a demonstration of his speakers.

Taking x-over down between ss8531 and ss3806 to 1.6kHz looks like a really smart move.

And using a 3/4" tweeter sure seems nice..

I am not sure when the speaker will be ready though.

/ Andreas

supernet · 27th June 2006, 01:04 PM

Helo

Any news about SP 38 project? Are you build it yet?

I am curious a little bit, becouse this project should be good alternative to pricey Ekta.

Gooch · 27th June 2006, 01:34 PM

Hello

I was going to build the SP38/13 but I am going to have to wait after talking with Troels he said that they are power hungry the 50wpc amp that I have is not going to give what they need. I don't know how much power you have. So I will have to wait till I get some more power the amp I want isn't cheap so till I get that I am going to hold off on building anything. His designs are very nice though.

Regards

Dave

supernet · 27th June 2006, 08:58 PM

Thanks Dave.

I got AKSA 100 W amplifier so there will be no problem.

But the problem is what to choose: Ekta or SP38 or TJL3W, this is really big problem

Ekta is a little bit too expensive to me, but I like the speaker who has easy on ear, warm and fluid presentation.

Any comments welcome

Mogar · 27th June 2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Ekta is a little bit too expensive to me, but I like the speaker who has easy on ear, warm and fluid presentation.

Troels said on his toughts about the speaker that the Scanspeak ring radiator tweeter don't worth the price. You can get similar performance for much less. I would try the Hicquphon OW1 instead, but it may ask for another crossover between mid and high.

ocaukrell · 28th June 2006, 05:07 AM

I'm in the process of building an 'Ekta clone', will be using the scan 9500 tweeter, Troels gave me a crossover simulation, so as you can see the cost will come down a lot....
Already had a pair of SP95's, only area I could fault them was the midrange, the Ekta is in reality an SP95 with a midrange...

andrew01 · 28th June 2006, 09:45 AM

SP38 is nice but wait till you get a quote from WES for the
D3806/8200.........
Pheww..
plus it's not kept in stock so 8-10 weeks wait till they come in...

supernet · 28th June 2006, 11:49 AM

I think XT25TG tweeter version of Ekta is best price/performance ratio.

But the 4631 mid driver from SS is very expensive. It is more expensive than 15 mid driver and the famous 8531 midbass driver.

Wondering how TJL3W should sound...

I have heard a lot of good words about Excel W12CY001 driver, but never heard one.

AMV8 · 28th June 2006, 12:19 PM

theokolat

The diy speaker that I have built and that my ears and wife ( who is more impartial than I can ever be ) have been most impressed by is the diy version of the Watt Puppy. I have attached a link to the site.

http://www.users.nac.net/markowitzgd/david/david.htm

This diy project tried to analyse why the Watts were one of the best - if not the best - speaker around and tried to include these atributed into a diy project.

The diy designer seems to have concluded, as I have, that making the mid range enclosure as rigid as possible will do alot in terms of 3d imaging, clarity and lack of colouration.

I have recently been using Corian and/or concrete to make the mid range enclosure as rigid as I can.

ply or fibre board seems ok for the bass enclosure where the rigidity does not seem to be so critical to my ears.

I hope this helps

Don

14th July 2005, 03:06 PM	#1
theokalat diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney	Best DIY Floorstander to Build Hi there folks, Theo from down under in good ol' OZ. I have decided to build a good DIY floorstander from published designs on the net. The two I have narrowed it down to are the following: Troel Gravesons SP38/13 using soley Scanspeak drivers. Looks very impressive. Link: http://home1.stofanet.dk/troels.gravesen/ And the other is Wayne Jaeschkes 2 way Eros MK11. Link: http://www.speakerbuilder.net/web_fi...ct/erosmk2.htm Both look extremely tempting but I prefer some feedback from anyone who has built any of these kits to give me a better idea of what to expect from them. I was wondering if anyone out there has built or heard any positive reviews of these speakers and which one would be the better of the two to build regardless of cost. Cheers Theo Kalat

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28th July 2005, 06:23 AM	#2
Andreas75 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Trollhättan/Sweden	Hi I am about to begin building Troels Gravesen´s sp38/13. Been looking around a lot before I decided on the sp38/13. Only waiting for my ss 3806 before I am getting started. Also getting my 8531g00 coated by Troels. I think this speaker looks quite interesting. Haven´t heard it yet though. Going to visit Troels soon for a demonstration of his speakers. Taking x-over down between ss8531 and ss3806 to 1.6kHz looks like a really smart move. And using a 3/4" tweeter sure seems nice.. I am not sure when the speaker will be ready though. / Andreas

27th June 2006, 01:04 PM	#3
supernet diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Europe	Helo Any news about SP 38 project? Are you build it yet? I am curious a little bit, becouse this project should be good alternative to pricey Ekta.

27th June 2006, 01:34 PM	#4
Gooch diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: West Coast of Florida	Hello I was going to build the SP38/13 but I am going to have to wait after talking with Troels he said that they are power hungry the 50wpc amp that I have is not going to give what they need. I don't know how much power you have. So I will have to wait till I get some more power the amp I want isn't cheap so till I get that I am going to hold off on building anything. His designs are very nice though. Regards Dave

27th June 2006, 08:58 PM	#5
supernet diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Europe	Thanks Dave. I got AKSA 100 W amplifier so there will be no problem. But the problem is what to choose: Ekta or SP38 or TJL3W, this is really big problem Ekta is a little bit too expensive to me, but I like the speaker who has easy on ear, warm and fluid presentation. Any comments welcome

28th June 2006, 09:45 AM	#8
andrew01 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide Southern Suburbs	SP38 is nice but wait till you get a quote from WES for the D3806/8200......... Pheww.. plus it's not kept in stock so 8-10 weeks wait till they come in...

28th June 2006, 11:49 AM	#9
supernet diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Europe	I think XT25TG tweeter version of Ekta is best price/performance ratio. But the 4631 mid driver from SS is very expensive. It is more expensive than 15 mid driver and the famous 8531 midbass driver. Wondering how TJL3W should sound... I have heard a lot of good words about Excel W12CY001 driver, but never heard one.

28th June 2006, 12:19 PM	#10
AMV8 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: near london	theokolat The diy speaker that I have built and that my ears and wife ( who is more impartial than I can ever be ) have been most impressed by is the diy version of the Watt Puppy. I have attached a link to the site. http://www.users.nac.net/markowitzgd/david/david.htm This diy project tried to analyse why the Watts were one of the best - if not the best - speaker around and tried to include these atributed into a diy project. The diy designer seems to have concluded, as I have, that making the mid range enclosure as rigid as possible will do alot in terms of 3d imaging, clarity and lack of colouration. I have recently been using Corian and/or concrete to make the mid range enclosure as rigid as I can. ply or fibre board seems ok for the bass enclosure where the rigidity does not seem to be so critical to my ears. I hope this helps Don

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