Fertin project - calling all open baffle experts

[reverendclark]

To reinforce Bernhard's commentary about Supravox, this reply today from my inquiry last week about price, shipping and availability:

Nous vous remercions pour l'intérêt que vous portez aux produits Supravox.

Pour cette rentrée de nombreuses nouveautés apparaissent :
Tout d'abord Supravox vous propose maintenant une gamme d'enceintes ( colonne, système triphonique et home cinema et pavillon )
Venez donc les découvrir sur la nouvelle partie du site consacré aux enceintes.
D'autre part le 135 bénéficie d'une nouvelle finition.
Bonne visite sur notre site.

Audiophilement votre.

L'équipe Supravox


Makes me wonder if *any* of these guys want to do business.

Peter C

[dice45]

Peter C,
yes, you are right. They are not uptone in spirit.
Nevertheless there are some mentality considerations to be taken.
French people please correct if i am wrong or grossly generalizing, that's not my intention, no offense meant.

France lives in sort of "splendid isolation" (although this has been always claimed for Britain).
They have considerable pride for their own achievements, history, culture, language. In language, it goes that far that common words of modern life the rest of the workd uses Armerican/English words for, particularly in the computer and internet field, are force-translated into French; it is forced by law to use French terms / replace foreign terms by French ones if the translation makes even the faintest sense. They have translated skateboard, electronic calculator, computer, use the translated terms in daily life.

I am just telling that to indicate that Supravox behaviour could be due to that different mentality.

My French is not good, anyway i try to translate it:
########
We thank you for the interest you have in Supravox products.
For that endevaour?restart? there show up several new possibilities.
First, Supravox suggests now a variety of enclosures (column, 3-way system and horns)
Please do have a look and discover them on our web site's new section dedicated to enclosures!
Apart from that, our 135 benefits from a new appearance/finish.
Enjoy your visit on our site.

Audiophilly yours,
the Supravox team.
###############
Makes my smirk. Merchants talk, trying to sell buttons and velvet ribbons.
Dunno what you asked them, Peter, but this answer is so stereotype that i wonder if they have any grasp of what you wanted to know, if they have even tried to get it.

[reverendclark]

That was kind of my point. I had Alta Vista translate that, because my French isn't good enough top ensure that I don't miss some nuances. Shouldn't have concerned myself about that, it said exactly what I thought it said, you confirm it. One can only conclude that they didn't "get it" concerning exchange rates, VAT, etc., the fundamentals of a trans-Atlantic retail business transaction.

Oh well, didn't want their stuff anyway. Let's hope Fertin is more responsive, or I'm back to TAD and Sierra Brooks. There is no used market for Fertins that I've been able to detect.

Thanks for the translation.

Peter C

[bcherry]

A few days along now with the golden ratio baffles. These are it! Real full range sound. A natural concern is the drivers are so close to the floor. In fact I find that the imaging is more natural. Voices still come in at head height but sax, guitar etc come in at their lower position which is where they should be. Overall effect is very realistic imaging with natural vertical and lateral positioning of sound sources.
No need to worry about the driver position - at least not with the Fertin's.
Brian

[bcherry]

This is the left channel after Auto-Q function has run. Scale is +-16db. The readout shows the corrections needed to get a 0db level 20hz to 20khz so you need to invert the scale to get the actual in room measurements for left channel only. You can see that the L channel needs 9db of boost to be flat at 20khz, right channel showed 5db of boost needed. You can ignore the stuff 40hz and below because there is construction going on across the street here in Tsimshatsui (new train station) and the vibrations are being felt.
Otherwise more or less similar to the summed measurements with the SPL meter although with greater degree of accuracy esp. on top end.
Hope this completes the picture.
Brian

[bbaker6212]

Bryan,
What are you driving the Fertins with these days. Billies?
Ellas with 45's?

curious, -Brad-

[bcherry]

The best match seems to be the Joplin pp running 45's. It still gives a nice midrange (not quite to 300B SET levels, but close) but has a stiffer, punchier bottom which compliments the Fertin's. The bass is still filling in BTW. Highs are heaven.
Brian

[Ken L]

seems to have fizzled -

Peter??

RevClark?

Dice45 ?

anything going on??

Thanks

Ken L

[Peter Daniel]

I am only waiting to be told where to deposit my money.

Seems like not too many choices nowadays, that Linkwitz stuff is too complex, isn't it? Simplicity is a way to go. Ask Fred, even he goes for NOS DAC now.

[Ken L]

for someone else to get in on?

How much is it to get in - freight and all ?

Send me e-mail if you like.

I think you're right - also Liknwitz is really more a SS design and I'm a tube guy - and I didn't realize the Fertin was being used open baffle - might have noticed it when I first read the thread -

I regret to say that more and more - my brain just doesn't work as good as it used to.





Later

Ken L