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Old 8th July 2005, 11:48 PM   #1
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Default one woofer is shiney and one is dull . . .

I have two Eton 8-800 woofers; one has a shiney finish and one is dull. How can I make the dull one shiney or the shiney one dull? I can post pics.

I was thinking of spraying or painting the dull one with something that would leave it shiney. I want to do this because of the appearance.

Any suggestions?
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Old 9th July 2005, 02:58 PM   #2
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Hi there

In this instance I would strongly advise contacting Eton themselves and asking their advice. Those are not cheap drivers, and any mods that could affect their performance or warantee is not advisable IMHO.

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Old 9th July 2005, 08:21 PM   #3
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To make the dull one shiny you could use Capaplex:
http://www.caparol.de/caparol/content?id=3748&type=64 .
But I don't know if it's available in the US ...
I use it sometimes to coat paper cones, it gives a professional looking glossy coating.
Since it will affect the sound of the speaker you should use it on both....
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Old 15th July 2005, 02:01 AM   #4
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I sent Eton an e-mail, they did not respond.

What is Capaplex? I cannot get that in the US, at a store. Is there something similar?
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Old 15th July 2005, 08:25 AM   #5
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Hi Jimmy154,

Capaplex is made for shiney coatings, it's based on PVA like wood
glue. I don't know if there something similar available in the US...
A quick "coating shiney" google search gives the following result:
http://www.abra-electronics.com/cata...als/04176.html
Maybe it's useable...
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I sent Eton an e-mail, they did not respond.

What is Capaplex? I cannot get that in the US, at a store. Is there something similar?

I would try to ask the place you bought them why they are different and if possible request a pair that match. I had a pair of these woofer long while ago, they were both shiny with a heavy coat on the front surface of the cone.
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Capaplex is made for shiney coatings, it's based on PVA like wood
glue. I don't know if there something similar available in the US...
A quick "coating shiney" google search gives the following result:
http://www.abra-electronics.com/cata...als/04176.html
Maybe it's useable...
Why is it necessary to that the coating be for electronics? I'm asking about the coating because I thought that some one would know what type and/or brand of coating(s) affect the sound the least. What does "PROTECTIVE COATINGS FOR DRY-TRANSFERS" mean? I guess if I find nothing else, I will go with the brush on coating since it is stated to leave a shiney finish.

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I would try to ask the place you bought them why they are different and if possible request a pair that match. I had a pair of these woofer long while ago, they were both shiny with a heavy coat on the front surface of the cone.
I bought these on ebay and when I got them about a year ago it did not bother me. I contacted the person, but he has no more he says. I want to build a different box for these woofers, so I would like them to look better. Since I will put effort into the new box to look good, I want the woofers to look good too.
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Old 15th July 2005, 04:15 PM   #8
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I got an e-mail form the person I bought these woofers from and he said, what I originally thought when I got the woofers, that the dull woofer is dusty.

Feyz did this happen to your woofers?

I started to think that this was untrue because I had the woofers for more than a year and the shiney one is still shiney. Also I forget now if the back of the dull woofer is dull too. If the back was shiney and the front was dull, I would have certainly concluded a year ago that it was dusty. But today I am not sure if the back is shiney. I will see when I take the woofers out to try to measure the woofers.

I guess I will try to put some dust on the shiney one and see what happens. What you think? The guy who I bought them from suggested saw dust.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jimmy154
I got an e-mail form the person I bought these woofers from and he said, what I originally thought when I got the woofers, that the dull woofer is dusty.

Feyz did this happen to your woofers?


It is hard to tell without seeing them but if one of them had been subjected to "a lot of" dust and other wasn't, it is possible. Mine were behind grill cloths in their enclosures, so dust wasn't an issue.

If I remember correctly, only the front of those cones are shiny and coated. Back of the cones were not coated at all from what I remember. The front coating was somewhat tacky, it could have been the result of dust but too much of it.

One thing that comes to my mind is to try to gently wipe the dull cone with a slightly damped lint free cloth. Will it bring back some shine back? Any extra coating you add to the woofer may change the behaviour of it, it will increase its mass at the least. But you may get away with a very thin coating. PartsExpress have something called "Wet Look", which may be of help.
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Old 15th July 2005, 11:59 PM   #10
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PartsExpress have something called "Wet Look"
Ooooo , that sounds sexy I think I will try that.

I think they are different finishes on these cones afterall. I will have to do something about them. But I will measure them first. I figure the one with no finish might have a lower Mms, allowing me to add mass in the form of a shiney coating. Unless the dull one is shiney on the back, then I figure it was dust causing it to appear dull and I can get the shiney one dull easily. The shiney one is definately shiney on the back too.

This is turning into quite a bit of speculation/laziness on my part. I should take the woofers out and see how the backs look.
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