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Old 28th June 2005, 09:10 PM   #1
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Remember My Jm lab electra clones? there getting a new midrange tommorow or the day after mainly because the gr research m130 SUCKS, im putting in the focal w-cone 6.5 midrange soon. Ill post pics of the process.
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Old 30th June 2005, 08:49 PM   #2
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Here it is, certainly looks better that way, When i turned it on i was just blown away by the new sound. The mids were pure, unadulterated, and the integration with the tweeter was seamless. NEVER buy the GR Research drivers, after listening to the beautiful sound of this midrange which costs only $60 more(money very well spent) i realized just how much of a crappy driver the Gr M130 is. Better pic is here:http://public.fotki.com/playazinc1/speakers/
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Weren't those speakers wilson clones? I know I've seen them somewhere on this forum before...
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Just to offer an alternative view, I'd choose the GR M130 over any Focal midwoofer. I've tested a few Focal drivers and I feel they just don't perform as well as they should, particularly considering their cost. Their motors are not particularly well designed. (I've had one ripped apart) Distortion is higher than a few cheap Asian drivers of 1/4 the price.

But to tell the truth of my feelings, there's a lot of drivers I'd chose over either of those. Neither one represents the best in it's field or price range though the M130 is not bad for a $25 woofer.

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Old 1st July 2005, 12:42 AM   #5
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Oh I don't know Zaph, the focal drivers are very good in the right situation. Dance music sounds great though focal drivers.

Agree that they aren't the best amongst their peers though.
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Just to offer an alternative view, I'd choose the GR M130 over any Focal midwoofer. I've tested a few Focal drivers and I feel they just don't perform as well as they should, particularly considering their cost. Their motors are not particularly well designed. (I've had one ripped apart) Distortion is higher than a few cheap Asian drivers of 1/4 the price.

But to tell the truth of my feelings, there's a lot of drivers I'd chose over either of those. Neither one represents the best in it's field or price range though the M130 is not bad for a $25 woofer.

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Old 1st July 2005, 01:11 AM   #7
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Weren't those speakers wilson clones? I know I've seen them somewhere on this forum before...
No, Here you go:


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Old 1st July 2005, 06:11 AM   #8
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Driver sonics are subjective. I've done extensive auditions with
different drivers and the Focal 6WM Utopia always scored lasted
in people's perceived sound quality in spite that it has a nice looking
fr graph.
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Driver sonics are subjective. I've done extensive auditions with
different drivers and the Focal 6WM Utopia always scored lasted
in people's perceived sound quality in spite that it has a nice looking
fr graph.
Is that why it is used in some of the most highly regarded speakrs in the world????
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Old 1st July 2005, 07:04 AM   #10
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BTW: You dont audition individual drivers, you audition loudspeakers, What you are looking for is integration, you cant just take 100 ramdom people and play different drivers on their own, crossoverless, to them and expect them to know what they are talking about in terms of sound quality as they will naturally pick the one fattest in the bass & coming close to the sound of a full range speaker. What you are looking for is how a loudspeaker performs as a whole, the quality of sound, mainly the way the seperate drivers integrate and come together to reproduce a full range sound, then you can start asking them about how the midrange or bass or highs sound. I know that the focal unit isnt an electrostatic panel or scan-speak 18w/8545 but other than those two it is the best thing i have heard, reproducing its given range in a whole speaker set-up.
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