Calling for help- starting Speaker Workshop Manual 2nd Edition

[JMB]

I am currently working on a 2nd edition to the Manual. A couple of errors in the first are being corrected and I am adding to the information base. I will likely separate out the information base from the instructions for those who are already knowledgeable or who don't want to read more than they have to . Any findings, additions, suggestions, criticisms, or corrections would be greatly appreciated. I will also be adding a few new spreadsheets. If anyone has access to spreadsheets or has built any that they feel would be of assistance to others working with Speaker Workshop, feel free to Email them to me. I will certainly credit the author.

Thanks,

Jay

p.s. target date is the end of the year for completion due to multiple other concurrent obligations.

[wintermute]

Hi Jay,

Good to hear that you are doing an update, the first manual is invaluable (made my speaker workshop experience so much better!!!), though I did notice ocasionally that some things weren't quite clear...

I'm just getting back to my project after 3 months of inactivity and I'm starting to look at the SW manual again, I'll try and make notes of any thing I find difficult to understand.

I'm just on page 102 at the moment, and I find it quite confusing... I'm using a walin jig II, but I suspect that the instructions 2 through 5 are really for Claudio's cables, and not particularly relevant to the walin jig II?? Even if I take this as the case I still find it confusing....

I don't understand step 3, where in speaker workshop do you adjust the volume?

Also is the idea here to get the levels from the mic, and the amp to be close to the same? I remember I had difficulty with this before.... maybe I should use a Claudio type cable for acoustic measurements, would probably give a finer level of control than my 0, 10 or 20 db attenuation with the walin Jig. The problem I found with the Jig + walin preamp II was that if I set the amp to a high enough level to get decent levels from the mic, I had to use the 10db attenuation on the jig, but then the ref signal was too low.....


Tony.

[wintermute]

make that page 101!!!

Tony.

[wintermute]

OK an extra bit relevant to Audigy 2 ZS owners:

on page 45 step 5, substitute analog mix for line in.

in addition to step 8, tick the box record without monitoring.

Also before proceding to the check sound car wizard go to options/ preferences/ general and make sure the check 96Khz tick box is ticked. If it was not, then tick it, close speaker workshop and reopen. If this is not done you will not get 96Khz sampling even if your card supports it.

Tony.

[wintermute]

on page 42/43 (for owners of an audigy II ZS) do not mute "line in" when carrying out step 3/4. if you do you will not be able to record.

Can you tell I'm resetting up speaker-workshop did a pc rebuild and although I had all my project stuff saved, the other settings are gone...


also on page 50, swap the order of the max and min settings in step 34 as they appear in the dialog box in the reverse order to the instructions..... probably being picky now, but still....

Tony.

[JMB]

Please keep up the good work. I don't currently have the time to re-edit the whole first edition (though I hope to review prior to releasing the 2nd edition) and the more eyes to look it over, the better. I welcome the input.

Thanks

Jay

[jomor]

I haven't read the whole manual, apologies if it is already implemented, but it would be really useful if there was a clear, emphasized procedure of
making phase reliable measurements for all the drivers when aiming in crossover design, something that many users dont pay attention to. For example checking the Measurement.in.l file each time, like
Dick is mentioning at his website :

http://home.hccnet.nl/ine.dick/Jan%2...0Jan/p11a.html

Thank you for all the helpful work you 've done for us !!

[JMB]

Thanks for the reply. Phase is mentioned and stressed. Regarding the xover issue, one generally designs a crossover based upon either a listening position or the standard 1 meter (I prefer the former method). By taking measurements with no changes in mic placement or gating, phase differences are taken into account in crossover design in SW. This is covered in the Manual.

Jay

[wintermute]

Hi JMB,

Just another thing I think you should add to the speaker workshop manual

I couldn't work out why the phase in my gated measurements looked completely wrong. jbateman just sorted me out with the transform delay function. This is mentioned in the manual but on the page titled Excess Delay (page 122) quite a few pages on from the measurements and the graph showing the phase.... the other problem is that I stopped reading this when it said "It is not recommended to use this as if you take all measurements from a reference point, it will already be adjusted for in SW."

I think maybe you should include a picture of what the phase measurement looks like without doing this cleanup and then say if you want to clean this up use the function and show what the phase looks like afterwoulds. You can then put in the warning about the excess delay, and doing it for all of the drivers....

here is a link to what jbateman posted for me http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...912#post703912

I really was wondering why my phase data didn't look like the graph in the unofficial speaker workshop manual

Tony.

[Sheldon]

Any way to make the changes so that the entire manual doesn't have to be reprinted? Would save a few trees if old pages could be removed and new ones inserted.


Sheldon